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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Quote Originally Posted by prateta View Post
    No, 9 cards, 1 copy of each. Sorry, it's night in my country now. Here is another lousy quality picture. Tomorrow when I get to some well lighted area (my flat is kind of a hole), I will make proper pictures of all 9. And as promised before, scans on saturday and review sunday/monday.

    Can you guess what's original and what's fake on this picture? :-)


    I correctly guessed on the Goblins based on the blurriness of the fakes, but I wasn't confident at all. This time I'm going to guess the top four cards are all fake because the color seems off, but again, very uncertain.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    It's hard to tell because of the blurriness of the picture, but i would say the top Ruins, Revelation + Snapcaster and the lower Deed are fake.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    If I had to guess, I think the top Rev is fake, the bottom deed, ruins, and snap are fake, also.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    The lighning really makes it hard to tell, but I go with top Ruins and rest bottom fake.

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    I just realized tag I bought an Academy Ruins from years back. The card name text seems to be smudged. I thought it was just print error but it could be a fake.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

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    So, because no one officially exists to officially say it is the same, it isn't the same? It sure seems like an equivalent practice.

    A security is "any tradable financial asset". There are websites with stock market-like tickers showing the change in card prices. People submit cards to speculation and their prices fluctuate accordingly. There may not be an official-sounding person or entity claiming it to be so, but it sure as hell walks like a duck.
    According to the '34 act, a security does not include antiques or collectables. Anyone with a web crawler could chronicle the completed price range of any good or service on ebay or pricewatch, stick it on a website, and profit from speculating on price fluxations; that doesn't make it a security.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Too much wear on the edges of the bottom cards for them to be brand new fakes, imo. If I had to guess, I'd say the top 4 are fakes, with the possible exception of the Academy Ruins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilla View Post
    Too much wear on the edges of the bottom cards for them to be brand new fakes, imo. If I had to guess, I'd say the top 4 are fakes, with the possible exception of the Academy Ruins.
    Actually, if you look at the bottom edge of the Pernicious Deed on top, it seems like there's a similar pattern of chipping to the Pernicious Deed on the bottom. It's just more noticeable in the latter picture because of the angle and the lighting.

    Something seems fishy with that Snapcaster in either case.

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    I think that there is only a fake card, the Sphinx's Revelation. And there are only four different cards, but the user took two different photos, to compare the brightness.

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    All of them are fakes. Those chinese are getting quite good. Online trading won't ever be as safe as before this. (well safe-ish)

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnuit View Post
    I think that there is only a fake card, the Sphinx's Revelation. And there are only four different cards, but the user took two different photos, to compare the brightness.
    Yes, forgot to mention. 2 photos, 4 cards only. One with normal mode + flash, one in HDR mode.
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    Re: Chinese fakes

    I'd venture that the top two are fake based on the spacing of the oracle text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prateta View Post
    All of them are fakes. Those chinese are getting quite good. Online trading won't ever be as safe as before this. (well safe-ish)

    Yes, forgot to mention. 2 photos, 4 cards only. One with normal mode + flash, one in HDR mode.
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    Re: Chinese fakes

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    All of them are fakes.
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    If you really want to get a resolution to this problem, email Wotc and voice your displeasure.

    You need cops, investigators. Ebay, TCGplayer and Card shark all need to be policed.

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Who really gives a F*CK about $20 fakes.... Have you ever seen a cashier hold your $20 bill up to the light to check if its real? I worked at a bank and the only bills that we ever really scrutinized were the 50's and 100's. Obviously if the fake bill is just so bad to the naked eye that you can tell its a fake we would have an issue with it but normally you just take the money make the transaction and move on. Why does MTG get more scrutiny than our county's currency....
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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonwisdom View Post
    wizardscusthelp@wizards.com

    If you really want to get a resolution to this problem, email Wotc and voice your displeasure.

    You need cops, investigators. Ebay, TCGplayer and Card shark all need to be policed.
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    Why do the people that stand to benefit need to police the people that stand to lose, exactly?
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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Quote Originally Posted by prateta View Post
    Yes, forgot to mention. 2 photos, 4 cards only. One with normal mode + flash, one in HDR mode.
    Is that a white spot on the sleeve or did they indeed spell "Pernicioùs Deed" in the name?

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    Re: Chinese fakes

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonwisdom View Post
    wizardscusthelp@wizards.com

    If you really want to get a resolution to this problem, email Wotc and voice your displeasure.

    You need cops, investigators. Ebay, TCGplayer and Card shark all need to be policed.
    Would this (voicing displeasure) actually help? I'm sure WotC is doing everything they can to shut this down. Unless you have specific info, I think this is fruitless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple713 View Post
    Who really gives a F*CK about $20 fakes.... Have you ever seen a cashier hold your $20 bill up to the light to check if its real? I worked at a bank and the only bills that we ever really scrutinized were the 50's and 100's. Obviously if the fake bill is just so bad to the naked eye that you can tell its a fake we would have an issue with it but normally you just take the money make the transaction and move on. Why does MTG get more scrutiny than our county's currency....
    You're implying that magic cards only cost $20.

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