Chinese fakes

[Stephan/]

So what you are saying is: Real cards have sharper edges (letters) and on the wasteland fake the letters are printed within the dot pattern which leads to less sharp edges. Did i get you right?

Exactly. It looks like it was printed as one picture.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Thanks for info!

[SilverGreen]

Of all the people in here, you seam the most willing to go and buy a ton of these. So forgive my bluntness but go seek your information elsewhere. While we do talk about the cards here, we will not help you in your endever to buy and use these cards. That's not what this thread is for.

Sure, sure. Perhaps people could just do the same that MaRo does whenever he faces a text containing "unsolicited material", and immediately "stops reading". Ok. I bought that one.

Keep going, dudes. I'm really sure these talks won't be used by counterfeiters to improve their counterfeits. Never mind. No way.

Keep up the good work.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Sure, sure. Perhaps people could just do the same that MaRo does whenever he faces a text containing "unsolicited material", and immediately "stops reading". Ok. I bought that one.

Keep going, dudes. I'm really sure these talks won't be used by counterfeiters to improve their counterfeits. Never mind. No way.

Keep up the good work.

I don't get you. First of all, the fakers do their own research, it's called quality control and it's done with every order a printhouse makes. Moreover, do you really want the community to be mute about the affair? Whom would it help?

[Dan Turner]

The Chinese are now selling singles via a website. Not going to link the website here but for $150 + $3 shipping you get 55 cards. Or you can get underground seas $36.90 shipped

[SirTylerGalt]

Fake Magic Cards in Edmonton Area. Be Wary! (reddit.com/r/magicTCG)

[Darkenslight]

Fake Magic Cards in Edmonton Area. Be Wary! (reddit.com/r/magicTCG)

Could be a hoax - the first picture was linked in this thread a few weeks ago (note: this isn't me downplaying the fact that these are the same counterfeits mentioned previously.)

[JPoJohnson]

I haven't read the entire thread, but it looks like the fakes were removed both from ebay and the original printers site. I wonder if legal action took place against them. Still, there would still be a lot of fakes out there.


Also - There was an employee at SCG that stated that to people that have played magic for a little while that many of the fakes would be easy to spot and that most did not have the quality that was shared with the pictures, that those were the 'cream of the crop' so to speak.

[sdematt]

Even the second run isn't good enough, in my opinion.

I saw some at GP Vancouver that a vender had and it was good, but not amazing. It'll fool someone new to the game, but if you've played long enough and you really FEEL the cards, it's not right. Very similar, if anyone remembers, to the fake Pokemon cards of the late 90's. Waxy.

-Matt

[JPoJohnson]

Even the second run isn't good enough, in my opinion.

I saw some at GP Vancouver that a vender had and it was good, but not amazing. It'll fool someone new to the game, but if you've played long enough and you really FEEL the cards, it's not right. Very similar, if anyone remembers, to the fake Pokemon cards of the late 90's. Waxy.

-Matt

Was the vendor selling them as real?

[sdematt]

Of course not. I know him, and he was showing them to me.

-Matt

[SilverGreen]

I don't get you. First of all, the fakers do their own research, it's called quality control and it's done with every order a printhouse makes. Moreover, do you really want the community to be mute about the affair? Whom would it help?

Sorry to say that, but you understood the post in reverse. :p

[Dragonslayer_90]

http://www.starcityshop.com/

What do you guys think? People in my school magic club are pretty convinced that this is an online vendor trying to sell the fake cards. They have planeswalkers listed as creatures lol.

[TheArchitect]

http://www.starcityshop.com/

What do you guys think? People in my school magic club are pretty convinced that this is an online vendor trying to sell the fake cards. They have planeswalkers listed as creatures lol.

That is the site Dan is referring to in this:

The Chinese are now selling singles via a website. Not going to link the website here but for $150 + $3 shipping you get 55 cards. Or you can get underground seas $36.90 shipped

Those are 100% fakes. That site is however, quiet hilarious. I cant wait to get me some Jace creature from starcityshop.

The site is also being discussed here: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=589372


This is their disclaimer, clearly selling the chinese fakes:

MUST READ!!! Acknowledgement of the following DISCLAIMER is required before making a purchase: StarCityShop.com and its products are by no means affiliated with Wizards of the Coast or any of its subsidiaries. Our products are NOT offered or authorized by its manufactures. We make no representations or warranties of any kind, express or implied, about the completeness, accuracy, reliability, suitability or availability with respect to the listing or the information, products, services, or related graphics contained on the listing for any purpose. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. We will not be held responsible for any misuse or misrepresentations of our products conducted by buyers.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

When I saw the Star City Shop logo I loled.

"Four stripes? More stripes, more adidas!"

[Lans89]

OMG I also lol'd... but this is so wrong..

I love Magic and now I'm so paranoid about this development.. What if they will be able to make even better fakes? Some of the people in this thread give stupid defenitions of horders, but the fact that I can play almost any Legacy deck doesn't make me a bad person or &%$#@! horder.. And no, I don't own 8 FoW to do so. Just play one kind of sleeves! I just love this game and play too much, always switching decks and debating forever what I should play ^^! I don't want the market to crash, but even worse is that things like BoM or the Starcity series will vanish if there is no profit for sellers etc.. I refuse to panic and sell half of my collection, but damn I HOPE THIS WILL STOP!

Well that was my 02:14 freak out

[Scott]

OMG I also lol'd... but this is so wrong..

I love Magic and now I'm so paranoid about this development.. What if they will be able to make even better fakes? Some of the people in this thread give stupid defenitions of horders, but the fact that I can play almost any Legacy deck doesn't make me a bad person or &%$#@! horder.. And no, I don't own 8 FoW to do so. Just play one kind of sleeves! I just love this game and play too much, always switching decks and debating forever what I should play ^^! I don't want the market to crash, but even worse is that things like BoM or the Starcity series will vanish if there is no profit for sellers etc.. I refuse to panic and sell half of my collection, but damn I HOPE THIS WILL STOP!

Well that was my 02:14 freak out

Anyone who says that you're doing anything wrong is silly

[Technics]

From That website:

LEGACY

Demonic Tutor
Sol Ring
Vampiric Tutor

I am obviously playing Legacy wrong. I don't have any of those cards in my deck...

[Jon]

I'm all for the fakes getting better. I have duals, and might lose money, but I don't really care. I just want to be able to play what I want when I want, with lots of players, and a wide variety of strategy. You don't get that by making the cards everybody needs increase in value to the point where only the rich get to join the game on a whim. Seriously, 2,000$ is easy for a family making 6-7-8 figures, it's not even a thought. But for a poor family living on the margin? Forget playing magic little jimmy, looks like your getting a job just to eat this week!

This is about the game being accessible to the poor, and i'm all for it. Fuck the Prince of Wales .

It's funny, people here are calling others here 'entitled' for wanting fair prices, saying 'well you gotta save up for this shit!', but this hypocrisy is almost royal. Fuck you! Money is depreciating in value, and the cards are increasing in value. You guys are the ones acting with a sense of entitlement.

"Oh I came first, Oh I saved up for mine."

Why don't we just turn magic into a country club with token poor kids who get to borrow extra decks from their wealthy 'friends', yeah that sounds swell. Oh yeah, and we'll make room for the lucky poor bastards who bought in early.

I like you. I agree with everything you said. FUCK THE PRICE OF WALES!

[MGB]

I'm all for the fakes getting better. I have duals, and might lose money, but I don't really care. I just want to be able to play what I want when I want, with lots of players, and a wide variety of strategy. You don't get that by making the cards everybody needs increase in value to the point where only the rich get to join the game on a whim. Seriously, 2,000$ is easy for a family making 6-7-8 figures, it's not even a thought. But for a poor family living on the margin? Forget playing magic little jimmy, looks like your getting a job just to eat this week!

This is about the game being accessible to the poor, and i'm all for it. Fuck the Prince of Wales .

It's funny, people here are calling others here 'entitled' for wanting fair prices, saying 'well you gotta save up for this shit!', but this hypocrisy is almost royal. Fuck you! Money is depreciating in value, and the cards are increasing in value. You guys are the ones acting with a sense of entitlement.

"Oh I came first, Oh I saved up for mine."

Why don't we just turn magic into a country club with token poor kids who get to borrow extra decks from their wealthy 'friends', yeah that sounds swell. Oh yeah, and we'll make room for the lucky poor bastards who bought in early.

Simply put - if you care about actually playing the game far more than collecting cards then you should support the proliferation of high-quality fakes that would increase the supply of Legacy staples.