Chinese fakes

[Mr.C]

Here is a comparison to real cards. Should be fairly obvious which one's are real.

I prefer my fake Tundra:



Done at home. HP Glossy Paper.

[Technics]

I prefer my fake Tundra:

Done at home. HP Glossy Paper.

Very nice. Hard to do when you need 100 or so proxies, but yes, I like!

[prateta]

Wait, I want to be clear, on this site you think your opinion is given credence because you own Land Taxes.

What the fuck dude.

These are some of the cards I could throw into a square without having to actually stand up or dig into trade boxes;



Doesn't include most of my EDH junks, trade shit, several half-built decks, or cards out on loan like my Karakeses, Forces, a bunch of fetches. Not sure where my Train Wreck stuff went so it's missing most of my Bayous, black fetches, several tops, Emrakul, Griselbrand, Coffers, Damnation, Deeds.

This not only isn't my final form, this isn't my tertiary form. This is the form I use when I want to sing Cyndi Lauper in the shower and I'm sure no one is around to hear me.

And I'm one of the guys in our area that has to borrow way way way more than he lends out.

It is clear that you are not only not on the same page as everyone else, you are operating out in the fucking kuiper belt beyond all range of human contact.

Also who the fuck still uses photobucket.

Good day, sir.

What's the purpose of your post? Could you please clarify it for me?

[Tylert]

Here is a comparison to real cards. Should be fairly obvious which one's are real.

Sorry, i'm not a specialist.
Which ones are the fakes?

EDIT: just saw your previous post, and now i know that the fakes are the misscut / clearer ones...
It's too bad that i'll need a real card to see that it is a fake :(

[Technics]

Sorry, i'm not a specialist.
Which ones are the fakes?

EDIT: just saw your previous post, and now i know that the fakes are the misscut / clearer ones...
It's too bad that i'll need a real card to see that it is a fake :(

They actually are not really clearer. The color is off even more so on the back.

Sent from my Nexus 5

[csy]

What's the purpose of your post? Could you please clarify it for me?

He just wanted to show that he could afford a cell phone with a better camera, but loves taking out of focus dim shots of disgusting disorganized piles.

[nedleeds]

It is clear that you are not only not on the same page as everyone else, you are operating out in the fucking kuiper belt beyond all range of human contact.

Also who the fuck still uses photobucket.

Good day, sir.

Thanks for forcing me to projectile spit my coffee onto my keyboard. You'll be getting an invoice.

[MaximumC]

I just got a bunch of proxies printed for my cube. I would say about 85-90% real looking front. I had them print the collectors edition back "Not for play use" so as to avoid any issues. They are not correctly cut (almost every card was miscut), and the back side color is bad, however these are perfect proxies in my mind. They are also SLIGHTLY larger than a normal magic card so they do not fit in perfect fits, and the "feel" is a little soft (they don't snap right).

The interesting thing is you can upload any image you want and have it printed, so this is perfect for cube proxies.

See now, this is what I'm talking about. These look perfectly nice and will go swimmingly in a cube, but there is no way to mistake them for regular magic cards. I'd suggest you probably should also print something on the front indicating they are not genuine, otherwise they may eventually fall into the hands of someone who will try to scam people based on the front in a sleeve alone. Otherwise, this kind of thing seems fine from a Magic perspective. (Probably not so much from an art and artists' perspective, however, and you're probably still running afoul of copyright laws.)

Did you order these from China? Or someplace in the U.S.? Are printers overseas still taking custom orders for this kind of thing? If so, that's actually kind of depressing...

Wow, I was like 101% sure that some half-wit rushes in to comment my post with 4th Edition wb heavy played Llanowar Elves, but I never dared to guess it'll be IBA him/herself.

IBA, do me a favor, please. If you're so above myself, why don't you simply ignore me? You know: you may pretend that you don't care, yet it simply doesn't work when you always ejaculate like this. I know that your pussy is hurt for some reason, and I guess all the small victories on the internet really help to heal your miserable ego, but seriously, you're a bad actor.

Lolwhut

I've been reading this thread and I have no idea what you're reacting to. Someone was complaining that you have Too Many Cards? Is that what this is about?

[Koby]

I recently bought some cards on eBay, and scared myself silly when I opened them up. I thought I just received Chinese fakes because the corners were too rounded, the cutting die seemed inconsistent, and a few random chips along the edge (also indicating a weak die).

I performed the light test and compared it to an authentic, and that makes me less concerned about their authenticity.

I'm done buying cards on eBay however. :(

[r3dd09]

I recently bought some cards on eBay, and scared myself silly when I opened them up. I thought I just received Chinese fakes because the corners were too rounded, the cutting die seemed inconsistent, and a few random chips along the edge (also indicating a weak die).

I performed the light test and compared it to an authentic, and that makes me less concerned about their authenticity.

I'm done buying cards on eBay however. :(

Pics?

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I recently bought some cards on eBay, and scared myself silly when I opened them up. I thought I just received Chinese fakes because the corners were too rounded, the cutting die seemed inconsistent, and a few random chips along the edge (also indicating a weak die).

I performed the light test and compared it to an authentic, and that makes me less concerned about their authenticity.

I'm done buying cards on eBay however. :(

Hm. Might be a completely different fakes, other than the Chinese. Also... might be real. Any chance to make UV light test?

[MaximumC]

Hm. Might be a completely different fakes, other than the Chinese. Also... might be real. Any chance to make UV light test?

I wouldn't freak out too much. Provided you prove the cards are actually fake for certain, eBay is pretty good about refunding your money after you make a timely complaint.

[Barook]

The Alibaba fakes were shut down btw.

If there were even higher quality fakes by someone else, they would probably be sold at market price if they're hard enough to distinguish from the real thing.

[Koby]

I wouldn't freak out too much. Provided you prove the cards are actually fake for certain, eBay is pretty good about refunding your money after you make a timely complaint.

Correct, I'm not concerned about the eBay/PayPal/auction stuff. I'm concerned of a new batch of cards that are previously unannounced/unknown.

FWIW, it turns out Betrayers of Kamigawa has some pretty bad print runs with regards to the cutting die. After seeing/handling Chinese fakes it appeared as though they came from a similar process. However, a basic light test and side-by-side comparison seems to indicate the cards I got are legitimate. Its only fitting that the cards are from an asian themed set called Betrayers...

[JPoJohnson]

Correct, I'm not concerned about the eBay/PayPal/auction stuff. I'm concerned of a new batch of cards that are previously unannounced/unknown.

FWIW, it turns out Betrayers of Kamigawa has some pretty bad print runs with regards to the cutting die. After seeing/handling Chinese fakes it appeared as though they came from a similar process. However, a basic light test and side-by-side comparison seems to indicate the cards I got are legitimate. Its only fitting that the cards are from an asian themed set called Betrayers...

Bazinga.

There have been a couple of different times that I bought cards off ebay and they initially seemed dodgy but by comparing and running tests I found out they were real.

[sdematt]

Finally the mail came and the entire cast of Everyday Eternal got their cards sent in from a viewer.

This is the second run of cards, not the first. They're still bad in more ways than you can imagine. They don't look, smell, bend, or feel right. I don't have a UV light to test this batch, but a blue line is present (I had to sacrifice a Goblin Lackey).

Holding them beside a known real card makes it even more apparent.

just FYI.

I'll post pics later.

-Matt

[Koby]

Here, I'll help out:

Guess the real and the fakes:

[thecrav]

Preface: I apologize in advance if I'm repeating stuff that's already been said. I ditched out on this thread a while ago and just came back because I saw that Koby, who I know has personally seen fakes, had recently posted in it.

I brought a couple to my LGS and the reaction was quite interesting. The reaction I found the most interesting was from a friend who doesn't play magic but hears us talk about it a lot. He immediately could tell the difference between the fake and real card, just from his experience picking up people's draft chaff.

The most obvious thing is that they feel wrong. A lot of people have said that, but to clarify further, they feel extremely mint. Like... pulled out of a pack by angels and handed to you, and there's pretty much no way something as old as a dual will look/feel like that.

This super minty-ness also gives them quite a bit of sheen. It's kinda hard to explain, so here's a picture. Notice how the one on the left is a bit more washed out? That's the sheen coming into effect. (In real life, it's even more obvious, but I did the best I could with my camera (read: iPad) and photography lighting (read: super huge bright monitor)) Incidentally, the black border on the fake force is laughably bad.

Here, I'll help out:

Guess the real and the fakes:

I'm gonna cheat here and use a bit of personal knowledge. I can immediately tell the following:

Elspeth is fake
Vamp tutor is fake
Garuk is fake

All three are confirmed cards from the counterfeit print run. From what I know of you, you'd never own either of those Planeswalkers, and you definitely wouldn't own a white bordered vamp tutor.

[Darkenslight]

I'm gonna cheat here and use a bit of personal knowledge. I can immediately tell the following:

Elspeth is fake
Vamp tutor is fake
Garuk is fake

All three are confirmed cards from the counterfeit print run. From what I know of you, you'd never own either of those Planeswalkers, and you definitely wouldn't own a white bordered vamp tutor.

I'm worried about that Jace, too, if I'm honest - the corners look way too rounded for Worldwake cards.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Thanks for the info, I added your posts to my list of useful stuff.