[Deck] Faerie Stompy

[Jak]

I played a few games against Survival, about five, and this deck totally shit the bed. I would come out strong and get a Chalice at 1 out, Sea Drake with a Sword, and still lose because I drew shit. They Shriekmaw my Drake and I'm screwed because I can't draw a single creature. Other games might have been due to mulligan decisions, but still, not drawing a blue source for six turns or not getting another land for eight turns was annoying. I know Stompy decks aren't the most consistent but this was annoying. Also, drawing multiple hands of 3 land + Mox, force, and 2 Pestermite sucks.

I am just ranting because I was so annoyed. I know it was probably bad luck because I have never drawn so much shit before with this deck or Dragon Stompy.

[Arsenal]

Most FS decks run 22-24 creatures (as do Dragon Stompy decks). I don't see how you can't draw a creature. Maybe crappy MWS shuffler?

[Eldariel]

Meh, against Survival you really want SoLS anyways. That's one of the reasons I play 3/3 split presently - pro-black and pro-white are just too important (the prime reason I keep winning vs. UWb Landstill, for example, is pro-white that slamdances Humility in the face). I'd also want a 4th SoLS on the SB. Against Rock, Survival and company, it's just really, really good. Of course, drawing a bunch of lands off the top is probably going to cause you to lose anyways.

[JeroenC]

What? I don't understand how Pro-White would trump Humility, as Humility doesn't target. Equipment is on its own better than Humility, as you still get the boost, but I don't see what Pro-White has to do with this.

[Zinch]

I don't see how pro-white can protect you against humility... maybe against StP, but against humility is the same SoLS than SoFI

[Jak]

It was in real life. Yeah I run the 3/3 split just for that, but I drew SoFI. The list I used:

4 Tomb
4 City
9 Island
1 Ranger
4 Mox

4 Force
4 Chalice
6 Swords (3/3 split)
1 Sigil of Distinction
1 Pithing Needle

4 Sea Drake
4 Sernedib Efreet
4 Trinket Mage
4 Pestermite
4 Mulldrifter
2 Sower

Pretty basic. I am probably just having a bad day :(.

[Eldariel]

What? I don't understand how Pro-White would trump Humility, as Humility doesn't target. Equipment is on its own better than Humility, as you still get the boost, but I don't see what Pro-White has to do with this.

It trumps Humility by leaving you with a 3/3 Pro-White Pro-Black creatures on the table against their Factories, StPs and white 1/1s.

[JeroenC]

Oh. Though, in that case, SoFaI is better cause it lets you kill any creature if they don't block (if they do, you just kill the creature). And Jitte just kills any creature.
Though, of course, they don't offer Pro-White so no StP-protection (which should/could be solved with a Chalice).

[Eldariel]

Oh. Though, in that case, SoFaI is better cause it lets you kill any creature if they don't block (if they do, you just kill the creature). And Jitte just kills any creature.
Though, of course, they don't offer Pro-White so no StP-protection (which should/could be solved with a Chalice).

The key is that pro-white allows you to swing through Decree tokens, race them and ignores StP. It only leaves them with Factories as relevant cards (which you can juts Needle and so on). Jitte and SoFI require you to plow through. SoLS just pulls you past...and turns practically all their answers off.

[3duece]

Hey guys, my name's Danny and I'm trying to get into playing faerie stompy. I've put together an intitial list that seems decent to me but I'm hoping you can give me some criticism, specifically regarding threat choices, trinket mage targets and sideboard options. I want the sideboard to be able to handle storm combo, dredge and heavy control like all the four color landstill and ITF builds running around.

4 city of traitors
4 ancient tomb
1 seat of the synod
9 island
4 chrome mox

4 chalice of the void
4 force of will
4 sword of fire and ice
3 sword of light and shadow
1 sigil of distinction

4 sea drake
4 serendib efreet
4 trinket mage
4 cloud of faeries
4 mulldrifter
4 pestermite
2 sower of temptation

4 back to basics
4 arcane laboratory/ethersworn canonist
3/4 tormod's crypt
2 sower of temptation
2/3 pithing needle

I'm iffy on that eighth equipment slot. I like the idea of running eight equipment, including the fetchable (but inferior) sigil, but I see alot of people running a single engineered explosives. This doesn't make sense to me since this is a one color deck and I can't think of any 1cc permanents I would care about. Also, maybe the sigil should be a pithing needle, I don't know. Can you guys give me some help on this slot, the sideboard and the build in general?

[Dr. DOOM]

@Jak: Survival is always a hard matchup because there's so many different builds, but needle on survival and chalice at 2 should do it. If you play chalice at 1 make sure you have FoW backup against SotF or start digging for it with drifters, even evoked.

All decks have risks of being mana screwed/flooded. Especially 43 lands.dec Shit happens.

@3duece: Better to move that Sigil to the board and run a needle maindeck if your metagame is combo. Can you say charbelcher? Laboratory sucks. If you play a creature then the opponent can do nasty things in your turn without you being able to FoW. That does not have to happen but if it does it can cost you a gameloss. Canonist is white and you can't trust it's ability, don't even think about it.

Try Glen Elendra Archmage. Against combo play chalice at 1 and then play archmage, you can exchange them with Sower postboard. When they play belcher, pay attention to chalice, then chalice at one is not always the best, it depends on the situation. You can do it if you have counter backup for Belcher or after playing needle.

And run one engineered explosives in the board against tokens from Empty the warrens and Bridge from below. You can fetch it with Trinket Mage.

Against Dredge you have evoked drifters, Explosives, chalice at 1 against cabal therapy and crypt.

You mentioned Explosives for 1cc creatures, but keep in mind you can also cast it at 0 against tokens, morph, ornithopters, manlands and so on.

Against Heavy control use archmage and if they play 3 Engineered Explosives and in 3 color decks and Pernicious Deeds don't hesitate to board out some chalice, one or two. Especially on the draw. Board in: Archmage Needle and Back to basics.

I see that your build is same as mine, I want to let you know that I'm currently testing sower/drifter in a 3/3 split, and maybe replace one island with Shoreline Ranger, although that is a bit risky if your metagame is crazy about land destruction. Just test it thoroughly and see if it works for your playing style.

[Captain Hammer]

3duece, you're playing a 64 card deck. Please cut the 4 Cloud of Fairies and go back down to 60.

And yes I would play a single Pithing Needle maindeck.

But I would cut a Swords to make room for it rather than cut the Sigil.

The pithing needle is awesome, not just againt charbelcher, but against controllish decks that aren't crippled by Chalice at 1 to shut down Factories, Deeds, Survivals and such. And Sigil is great against those same deck.

Sigil is an all around very solid equipment, and being able to fetch it even under multiple Chalices is a godsend. I've won many games off a topdecked Sigil that I might have otherwise lost.

[Dr. DOOM]

3duece, you're playing a 64 card deck. Please cut the 4 Cloud of Fairies and go back down to 60.

Ok, that's one tiny difference with my build then

[3duece]

Ha, small moment of retardation on my part. So, cut the cloud of faeries, cut a sword for sigil. I haven't tested sigil yet, but it seems weak. I know its fetchable which is nice, I'll have to try it out. So the list would go something like this:
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
1 Seat of the Synod
9 Island
4 Chrome Mox

3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Sigil of Distinction
1 Pithing Needle
4 Force of Will
4 Chalice of the Void

4 Sea Drake
4 Serendib Efreet
4 Trinket Mage
4 Pestermite
4 Mulldrifter
2 Sower of Temptation

4 Back to Basics
4 Hydroblast
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Sower of Temptation

[Captain Hammer]

That list looks close to perfect.

You should be able to get away with cutting any two cards from your sideboard to make room for either 2 Glen Alara or 2 Misdirection. The trick is to figure out what could be cut.

I guess the only two unresolved issues with the maindeck are...

4 SoFI/2 SoLS vs 3 SOFI/3SoLS?

Cut an island for a Shoreline Ranger or no?

I think these two could use a bit more debate.

[3duece]

That list looks close to perfect.

You should be able to get away with cutting any two cards from your sideboard to make room for either 2 Glen Alara or 2 Misdirection. The trick is to figure out what could be cut.

I guess the only two unresolved issues with the maindeck are...

4 SoFI/2 SoLS vs 3 SOFI/3SoLS?

Cut an island for a Shoreline Ranger or no?

I think these two could use a bit more debate.

I think I'll keep the swords 3/3 for now, but you know looking at glen elendra archmage, I think I might nix the sowers altogether and go with her as a 2 main/2 board split. Her ability rocks and makes sword of light and shadow even better than recycling evoked mulldrifters, plus she makes game 1 against combo a little more tolerable.

[Dr. DOOM]

mix the sowers altogether and go with her as a 2 main/2 board split. Her ability rocks and makes sword of light and shadow even better than recycling evoked mulldrifters, plus she makes game 1 against combo a little more tolerable.

You can cut a crypt, hydroblast and BtB for 3 glen elendra archmage. You may also want an extra needle in the board instead of Explosives. You don't need 4 BtB because you use it to kick 'em when they're down. Don't cast BtB first turn because they start fetching basics then.

Keep in mind that glen elendra archmage counters only non creature spells, for which you already have your chalices. I have won many games and matches against combo before glen elendra archmage was printed. The combo player is not expecting chalice in the first game anyway, so post board the glen elendra archmage is more useful.

Sower is better main, because most creatures currently played are completely off the scale, power-wise. I've seen a deck top 8 with Show and tell+Darksteel colossus, there's dreadnought, goyf, tombstalker, terravore, crusher and so on.

[Arsenal]

How integral is maindeck Tormod's Crypt? I understand it's there as a maindeck solution against GY based decks, and to a lesser degree, your opponent's Goyfs, but is it a 100% non-negotiable piece? Same goes for Needle.

[Dr. DOOM]

How integral is maindeck Tormod's Crypt?

It isn't. Only against Loam and Ichorid decks. Your opponents' Goyf may grow as big as possible and then you steal it with Sower.

[Spardantevil]

Hey guys !

I won a 16 player tournament last week end, beating BWG rock, solidarity and a deck I didn't even see out of 2 games, and IDing with Aluren (friggin bad MU btw). Not going to report it though, as I ended all my games in 10-20 minutes per round. I'm kind of disappointed since it was a "test tournament" for some little twists in my list, which I coulnd't obviously test effectively since I won too quickly. More details after the next big tournament, so that I don't get scouted over here too soon =)

By the way, I almost won my slot to the Coupe de France Legacy (tr: Legacy French Championship) with this victory (placing 8/10th place over 64). Gonna bring FS to the next level there