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    [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Apparently Spain has held its Legacy Champs... here's a link to the top8 results.

    edit: November 11th

    - PR


    edit: 45 people

    For reference:

    1st: Ugw Meathooks
    2nd: Uwr Landstill
    3rd/4th: Mono Green Berserk Stompy
    3rd/4th: 4c Landstill
    5th/6th: Mono Red Burn
    5th/6th: NQG/r
    7th/8th: Mono Black Suicide
    7th/8th: RecSur

    Decklists:

    1st place: David de la Iglesia with Meathooks

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    4 Polluted Delta
                    4 Flooded Strand
                    4 Tundra
                    3 Tropical Island
                    3 Wasteland
    
                    4 Plated Sliver
                    4 Sinew Sliver
                    4 Muscle Sliver
                    4 Crystalline Sliver
                    3 Winged Sliver
    
                    4 Æther Vial
                    4 Brainstorm
                    4 Daze
                    4 Force of Will
                    3 Stifle
                    4 Swords to Plowshares
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    4 Meddling Mage
                    3 Harmonic Sliver
                    2 Essence Sliver
                    2 Spell Snare
                    2 Pithing Needle
                    2 Tormod's Crypt

    2nd Place: Marcos Cardenal with Uwr Landstill

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    1 Plains
                    3 Island
                    4 Tundra
                    4 Volcanic Island
                    4 Flooded Strand
                    4 Mishra's Factory
                    4 Wasteland
    
                    4 Swords to Plowshares
                    3 Engineered Explosives
                    4 Fire/Ice
                    3 Stifle
                    4 Counterspell
                    4 Force of Will
                    2 Fact or Fiction
                    4 Standstill
                    4 Brainstorm
                    2 Decree of Justice
    
                    2 Exalted Angel
    
    Sideboard (60 cards):
                    2 Pyroclasm
                    2 Blue Elemental Blast
                    3 Spell Snare
                    2 Tormod's Crypt
                    2 Seal of Cleansing
                    4 Meddling Mage

    3rd/4th place: Ismael Álvarez with Berserk Stompy

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    17 Forest
    
                    4 Might of Old Krosa
                    4 Invigorate
                    3 Rancor
                    4 Giant Growth
                    4 Berserk
    
                    2 Tarmogoyf                
                    2 Scryb Sprites
                    4 Silhana Ledgewalker
                    4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
                    4 Kavu Predator
                    4 Skyshroud Elite
                    4 Jungle Lion
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    4 Seeds of Innocence
                    2 Krosan Grip
                    2 Umezawa's Jitte
                    2 Tarmogoyf
                    3 Tormod's Crypt
                    2 Naturalize

    3rd/4th place: Jaime Cano with 4c Landstill

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    1 Plains
                    1 Island
                    1 Scrubland
                    1 Savannah
                    3 Tundra
                    3 Underground Sea
                    3 Tropical Island
                    2 Polluted Delta
                    3 Flooded Strand
                    4 Mishra's Factory
                    2 Wasteland
    
                    4 Force of Will
                    4 Counterspell
                    3 Stifle
                    4 Brainstorm
                    4 Standstill
                    2 Fact or Fiction
                    3 Cunning Wish
                    4 Swords to Plowshares
                    4 Pernicious Deed
                    2 Decree of Justice
    
                    2 Eternal Dragon
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    4 Meddling Mage
                    3 Extirpate
                    2 Krosan Grip
                    1 Fact or Fiction
                    1 Misdirection
                    1 Pulse of the Fields
                    1 Slaughter Pact
                    1 Intervention Pact
                    1 Diabolic Edict

    5th/6th place: Ángel Algarate with Burn

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    4 Bloodstained Mire
                    2 Wooded Foothills
                    13 Mountain
    
                    4 Fireblast
                    4 Lightning Bolt
                    4 Incinerate
                    3 Fork
                    3 Chain Lightning
                    3 Rift Bolt
                    3 Sudden Shock
                    3 Browbeat
                    3 Price of Progress
                    2 Lava Spike
                    2 Cursed Scroll
    
                    4 Mogg Fanatic
                    3 Grim Lavamancer
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    1 Browbeat
                    1 Sudden Shock
                    1 Rift Bolt
                    3 Tormod's Crypt
                    3 Red Elemental Blast
                    3 Pyroclasm
                    3 Shattering Spree

    5th/6th place: Manuel López with NQG/r

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    3 Tropical Island
                    3 Volcanic Island
                    1 Island
                    2 Wooded Foothills
                    3 Flooded Strand
                    3 Polluted Delta
                    4 Wasteland
    
                    4 Ponder
                    4 Brainstorm
                    4 Daze
                    4 Spell Snare
                    4 Force of Will
                    4 Stifle
                    4 Fire/Ice
                    4 Lightning Bolt
    
                    4 Tarmogoyf                
                    4 Nimble Mongoose
                    1 Fledgling Dragon
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    3 Pyroclasm
                    3 Tormod's Crypt
                    4 Red Elemental Blast
                    2 Krosan Grip
                    3 Engineered Explosives

    7th/8th place: Óscar Reoyo with MonoB Suicide

    Code:
    Maindeck (60 cards):
                    13 Swamp
                    3 Bloodstained Mire
                    4 Wasteland
    
                    4 Hymn to Tourach
                    4 Dark Ritual
                    4 Sinkhole
                    4 Smallpox
                    2 Engineered Plague
                    2 Powder Keg
    
                    4 Dark Confidant
                    4 Phyrexian Negator
                    4 Nantuko Shade
                    4 Hypnotic Specter
                    4 Withered Wretch
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    2 Engineered Plague
                    4 Duress
                    3 Smother
                    4 Dystopia
                    2 Masticore

    7th/8th place: Sergio Matesanz with Rec oh that really janky German Legacy Champs winner deck Sur

    Code:
    Maindeck (61 cards):
                    1 Phyrexian Tower
                    4 Savannah
                    1 Plains
                    1 Snow-Covered Plains
                    4 Windswept Heath
                    2 Wooded Foothills
                    3 Forest
                    2 Swamp
                    3 Bayou
    
                    4 Survival of the Fittest
                    1 Recurring Nightmare
                    1 Moat
                    3 Pernicious Deed
                    4 Cabal Therapy
                    4 Thoughtseize
    
                    1 Shriekmaw
                    1 Yosei, the Morning Star
                    1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
                    1 Loxodon Hierarch
                    1 Withered Wretch
                    1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                    1 Harmonic Sliver
                    1 Carrion Feeder
                    4 Wall of Roots
                    4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
                    4 Academy Rector
                    3 Eternal Witness
    
    Sideboard (15 cards):
                    1 Rule of Law
                    1 Ivory Mask
                    1 Pernicious Deed
                    2 Choke
                    4 Leyline of the Void
                    1 Loxodon Hierarch
                    1 Gaddock Teeg
                    1 Kataki, War's Wage
                    3 Krosan Grip

    It would be nice if someone who was there could give us a brief overview of the meta outside of the top8 and on the attendance.

    From what I can tell, whis event was a little strange... Counterslivers batteling through 1 to 2 Landstill lists, Green Stompy, Black Sui and Burn top8, only one ******** list... generally I really don't like what I see there. The list I despise the least is that 4c Landstill list with Cunning Wish, but that also only because I have fiddled with something similar just about a month ago. Please you people who were there, don't take any offense, but these lists just do look strange to me.
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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    All I want to know is how 'Hooks got through 2x Landstill and 1x Burn in the T8. The only difference from the old UGW lists that Infoninjas ran a couple months ago is the addition of stifle / wasteland, yet I cannot see how that would take whan we tested to be an extremely negative matchup (read: TONS of games tested) and make it positive. Burn was always a slightly negative matchup too, and essense sliver out of the board was always found to be too slow against burn.

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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    I'm surprised that Nourishing Lich didn't make a top 8 appearance. I've been getting tons of PMs from people from Europe, especially Spain, telling me that they were going to build the deck. Does anyone know how many people attended the tournament? @Der - Can you list every deck that was played by name? I'm kind of curious as to what the metagame looks like in that region.

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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Well, I don't know very much about the event because I couldn't go, but I can talk a little bit about the meta. It's a mix of random, control and aggro, Threshold isn't so played as it is in the US (I mean, there is people who actually don't play threshold here ), combo is almost inexistant (you may rarely find somebody playing IGGy or Aluren). Pikula and discard is popular in Madrid.

    Anyway, there isn't a great Legacy internet community, so we don't really have a defined metagame, most of legacy players are extended/vintage players, however there isn't very much people focused on Legacy, there are some eternal clubs who support Legacy just like a Vintage's little brother. Anyway, there are very good players, but his main interest is Standard or Vintage, so they're not very fond on what's played out there in other countries...
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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Quote Originally Posted by Der_imaginäre_Freund View Post

    For reference:

    1st: Ugw Meathooks
    2nd: Uwr Landstill
    3rd/4th: Mono Green Berserk Stompy
    3rd/4th: 4c Landstill
    5th/6th: Mono Red Burn
    5th/6th: NQG/r
    7th/8th: Mono Black Suicide
    7th/8th: RecSur


    How many players were there at this?
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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    How many ppl attended this event?
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    Germany seems to find me influential. Have you ever Googled "Nourishing Lich"?
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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Oh, and what was the date of the event?
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    Germany seems to find me influential. Have you ever Googled "Nourishing Lich"?
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    November 11th: last sunday.
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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Quote Originally Posted by Kronicler View Post
    All I want to know is how 'Hooks got through 2x Landstill and 1x Burn in the T8. The only difference from the old UGW lists that Infoninjas ran a couple months ago is the addition of stifle / wasteland, yet I cannot see how that would take whan we tested to be an extremely negative matchup (read: TONS of games tested) and make it positive. Burn was always a slightly negative matchup too, and essense sliver out of the board was always found to be too slow against burn.

    Kronicler
    It's always possible that they only faced one Landstill deck in the T8. They could have dodged the other and Burn. Am I missing where the top 8 pairings were listed? I can easily see them overcoming a single terrible matchup... sometimes you get good draws and your opponent just gets screwed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavius The Great View Post
    I'm surprised that Nourishing Lich didn't make a top 8 appearance. I've been getting tons of PMs from people from Europe, especially Spain, telling me that they were going to build the deck.
    Unless they were also planning on paying everyone else to not attend the event, I'm not sure why you equated people playing Lich with people T8ing with Lich.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego_Army_Man
    Unless they were also planning on paying everyone else to not attend the event, I'm not sure why you equated people playing Lich with people T8ing with Lich.....
    That's an ignorant thing to say. Nourishing Lich top8ed in a tourney in Germany a few months back. I've also gotten a dozen PMs from people in Europe concerning the deck over the past couple months. Maybe you should become more aware of things before posting facetious comments that only irritate a magnificent man such as myself.

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    Re: [Information] Spanish Legacy Champs top8

    Meathooks FTW! Well done, David!

    More details, please. How many people were there? Also, I look forward to a tourney report.
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    I'm Jaime Cano the 4C Landstill players. There were only 45 people due to the bad prize-cost relation. I top4 and only received 5 packs and a Cunning Wish Foil, same than the people who top8ed.
    David played in top 8 against the 2 landstill decks. I believe that it is not a hard matchup for me, but I had a play mistake that cost me the 3rd game in semifinals. Also he opened with Vial-Cristaline in the two games that won, and I never cast Pernicious Deed.
    There were a lot of decks there: 5-6 Landstill, 5-6 Goblins, 5-6 Threshold, Eternal Garden, Fish, MBC, PiKuLa, Tarmoburn, some burn decks, some survival decks and a little combo, 1-2 Solidarity and Iggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavius The Great View Post
    Maybe you should become more aware of things before posting facetious comments that only irritate a magnificent man such as myself.
    Have you ever read Confederacy of Dunces? You sound exactly like Ignatius J. Reilly.

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