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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
Miracle Stopper
As worded, it only stops Top. Brainstorm actually draws the cards and you only see them when they are in your hand. Fetchlands read 'search', not 'look', so I don't think it would do what you want.
Either way, we're delving into Obligatory Shitty Card Creation. :wink:
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Originally Posted by
Ace/Homebrew
As worded, it only stops Top. Brainstorm actually draws the cards and you only see them when they are in your hand. Fetchlands read 'search', not 'look', so I don't think it would do what you want.
Either way, we're delving into Obligatory Shitty Card Creation. :wink:
Ok then
Miracle Stopper
1WR
Enchantment
Can't Be Countered
Player's cant counter spells, search libraries, draw more than 1 card each turn, or look at the top cards of libraries.
This would make at least one WR strategy tier 1, and I ____in guarantee that
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
Ok then
They can still play Mentor and go nuts playing 1 mana spells.
You'd want something more like:
Miracle Stopper
:1::w::r:
Enchantment
Cannot be countered, Indestructible, Hexproof.
As long as ~ is in play, you cannot lose the game and Miracles players cannot win the game.
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
Ace/Homebrew
They can still play Mentor and go nuts playing 1 mana spells.
You'd want something more like:
Miracle Stopper
:1::w::r:
Enchantment
Cannot be countered, Indestructible, Hexproof.
As long as ~ is in play, you cannot lose the game and Miracles players cannot win the game.
I'll get you or any other challengers of this card up on Cockatrice and we'll see whether or not Miracles stands a chance against an RW deck with this card in it as a 4-of Ok?
Edit:by this card I mean the card I made not his ____ty parody.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
I'll get you or any other challengers of this card up on Cockatrice and we'll see whether or not Miracles stands a chance against an RW deck with this card in it as a 4-of Ok?
Edit:by this card I mean the card I made not his ____ty parody.
Council's Judgment exists. Are you even trying?
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Disen-shatter RW
Instant
Disen-shatter cannot be countered by activated or triggered abilities.
Destroy Target Artifact or Enchantment.
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Sweet something for the miracles mirror
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Originally Posted by
Lord_Mcdonalds
Sweet something for the miracles mirror
Exactly what I thought. Perfect fit for Miracles to get even stronger and add another layer of uninteractivity to the format
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Originally Posted by
Lemnear
Exactly what I thought. Perfect fit for Miracles to get even stronger and add another layer of uninteractivity to the format
How does adding a card that is only good in the mirror make the deck stronger vis a vis the rest of the field...?
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Miracle Stopper 2.0
WR
Instant
Split Second
Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.
Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
this should be deleted
I was trying to warn you above that your efforts belong in the Obligatory Shitty Card Creation Thread. Responses there are going to be more constructively critical.
But you doubled down instead...
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
Ok then
Miracle Stopper
1WR
Enchantment
Can't Be Countered
Player's cant counter spells, search libraries, draw more than 1 card each turn, or look at the top cards of libraries.
This would make at least one WR strategy tier 1, and I ____in guarantee that
No big deal, just a leyline of lifeforce, stranglehold, Spirit of the labyrinth, and Pithing needle naming Sensei's divining top all stapled together for 1WR and uncounterable. Seems reasonable.
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Originally Posted by
The_Dingo
Well a couple people said its still not good enough to beat miracles so ya what can i say...
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
Miracle Stopper 2.0
WR
Instant
Split Second
Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.
Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana
Whew. Miracles would never lose to death and taxes again.
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
LegacyIsAnEternalFormat
Miracle Stopper 2.0
WR
Instant
Split Second
Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.
Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana
Still gets stopped by Nevermore or Meddling Mage out of the board. To be truly fair and balanced it needs to let you reveal it from your hand to change its name.
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Originally Posted by
Watersaw
Still gets stopped by
Nevermore or
Meddling Mage out of the board. To be truly fair and balanced it needs to let you reveal it from your hand to change its name.
Are you kidding me? What do you want me to make? all cards have a way of stopping them, and if they didnt theyd be overpowered.
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Guys we are way off the beaten track here. There is a thread for this shit, please use it and leave this one for masterbation over Brainstorm. Because we all know that is more productive.
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Brainstorm should be banned to make Thoughtseize better #ontopic
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Why the obsession with making discard better?
I mean, if I had to choose between thoughtseize/duress being good and brainstorm being legal, I'm picking brainstorm almost every time
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As someone who plays Modern a fair bit, I am use to discard now. It just kind of happens. Will say this though, a format heavy on discard incentives its player base not to invest in single card dominant strategies. Cheerios for example dies to discard backed up by anything that can punch hard. This means its not a good deck to play and win with. In Legacy, this would push Storm harder into a pit after you take Brainstorm away. Not that I am debating keeping BS, my views on the card are public knowledge at this point, but its still something to think about.
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Talk doesn't cook rice. So, we're going to have some fun.
Tune in 1pm tomorrow EST!
2 rounds #InVintage + 2 rounds modified Legacy. Survival of the Fittest, Mind Twist, Earthcraft, Frantic Search, Goblin Recruiter unbanned.
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t....17%20PM_1.png
RIP nedleeds.
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Real wizards do real things. Rip Nedleeds
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One miracles player will stand against the ban list. Next time I'll bring Squirelchantwist
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Originally Posted by
whienot
Talk doesn't cook rice. So, we're going to have some fun.
Tune in 1pm tomorrow EST!
2 rounds #InVintage + 2 rounds modified Legacy. Survival of the Fittest, Mind Twist, Earthcraft, Frantic Search, Goblin Recruiter unbanned.
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t....17%20PM_1.png
RIP nedleeds.
Hell yeah that's the kind of Legacy I want to see!!
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
whienot
Tune in 1pm tomorrow EST!
2 rounds #InVintage + 2 rounds modified Legacy. Survival of the Fittest, Mind Twist, Earthcraft, Frantic Search, Goblin Recruiter unbanned.
When I tuned in the glare on the cards was so bad you couldn't recognize them, life totals were not correct, deck names were just dumb jokes, and at least one person was literally just screaming into their mic.
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It was also just 6 guys drinking and playing at their house for fun. I don't think they were overly concerned with the overall presentation. In the past Sean just logs on while sorting his cards to show off value
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So, what's up with 'rip nedleeds'? EDIT: not being disrespectful here.
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Originally Posted by
Chatto
So, what's up with 'rip nedleeds'? EDIT: not being disrespectful here.
He was perma-banned from this thread. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me tbh, given how antagonist and rude some forum members are to other members are in this thread (e.g myself + Lemnear (who doesn't even play and writes fake tournament reports lmao)).
R.I.P Nedleeds, red-piller of Legacy players.
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We had Needless banned before BS? Jeez that's bad :frown:
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Just in from BOM:
Top 8 had 17 DRS, 19 Abrupt Decays and Miracles Mirror in the Finals! #Diversity #BalancedFormat #NothingCanStopMiracles
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17 DRS and 19 abrupt decay from 5 decks.
then you had a burn deck with 3 firecraft in sb, and of course the two miracles decks. would like to see how the top 16 was as a whole.
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
mistercakes
17 DRS and 19 abrupt decay from 5 decks.
then you had a burn deck with 3 firecraft in sb, and of course the two miracles decks. would like to see how the top 16 was as a whole.
Counterbalance doesn't warp the format at all guys, Terminus and Deathrites are the reason you need uncounterable spells, :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by
iatee
Ban Abrupt Decay.
I agree, Ban everything that's not blue as well, they're not even real cards anyway.
It's time for blue mages to take back control and make legacy blue again. Stop blue genocide!
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Eternal Weekend results: 448 players
Metagame breakdown:
http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/media...hip-2,1108.jpg
8,5% Miracle decks total
The finals? Predict Miracle mirror. Lovely.
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Well there were 3 Elves in Top 8, so the miracles players kinda cake walked to the final
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I actually defeated Anders' Miracles in the Swiss, and came one turn following a topdecked Entreat close to taking game 3 in the quarters. The matchup is bad, but them playing 4 Predict and cutting down on a lot of business definitely helps out Elves.
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"Cakewalk" was too strong of a term, but it is one of Miracles' best matchups. My point is really that this top 8 was favorable to the miracle players and, more generally, that looking at the whole top 8 is far more useful than who made the finals.
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i think we need to look at the top 16. the top 8 was decided after single elimination rounds began.
anyone know what the others were playing? any other miracles decks there?
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Re: All B/R update speculation.
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Originally Posted by
phg22
"Cakewalk" was too strong of a term, but it is one of Miracles' best matchups. My point is really that this top 8 was favorable to the miracle players and, more generally, that looking at the whole top 8 is far more useful than who made the finals.
25% of the Top 8 were Miracles with only 8.5% meta presence. It's not like they fed on the measly 3.3% Elves representation to get there.
Edit: Top 16
http://i.imgur.com/5BpJ7KK.jpg
Who knows that #9-16 played? Julian?