I think I understand the motivation that WotC is aiming for - Play Magic. This means it rewards people who go to tournaments as Grinders. Does it make sense then that someone who goes to play a PTQ-level tournament every weekend have more points than a Pro who plays... 10 tournament? a year?Originally Posted by Julian23
I don't see anything inherently wrong with that system that rewards Play rather than Not-Play. If anything this could encourage Pro-players to become more closely aligned with their local communities without the fear that their rating will suffer.
Any more than laugh when you "cast a spell, Unsummoning your opponent's Faerie from the battlefield, then put the spell in a graveyard"? If you want to be non-discrete, you can say you're ranked at level 37. The "Sorcerer" seems like fluff.
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It sucks that a big portion of a season's Byes will now go to people that play a shitload of FNMs but will never top8 a real tournament, instead of to people that do. Because those people are better players and should be rewarded with Byes. Does that sound selfish to you? It should! Because I don't like it and I think it's unfair.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
Seems like most of the griping is around the insane 3x multiplier for FNMs. If they just dropped that back to 1x it seems like things would mostly be ok. I get that they want people doing more FNM because it's mostly Standard and Limited (= more product opened), but they really are way more casual.
Does anyone here know if stores are allowed to run multiple events/formats for FNM? I seriously doubt anywhere local is going to want to trade their regular 30+ FNM crowd for 10-15 Legacy players, but if they could run a second event on the side, it might happen.
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Level 36 guys, sup?
If I hadn't had my break, I'm pretty sure I'd be level 40+... Oh wait, the levels are quite useless, aren't they?
This looks like a job for me.
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Going 3-0 at 8players draft fnm gives you about as many points as you get for t8ing a 635 players BoM. Fair deal and totally awesome system.
And nope, you can't play legacy FNM, the legal formats for FNM are limited, type2 and extended (lol!).
Well, it does fix the old problem of hitting 1900 and not playing in anything again so you can keep byes for that one Grand Prix that gets close. I got stuck in that position once and it sucked since I couldn't lose to anyone or even draw without losing mass points. So what happens? I don't play for months. Yeah, that's a bummer. Grand Prixs rarely come near me since I live in Upper Michigan. It's sad when a 7 hour drive is close. I never liked having to time them out to have byes. I'm at least happy about that part.
What exactly are the levels good for anyway? I'm lvl 40 if it's good for anything. I guess I'll be racking these points up since we have FNM, Game Days, Pre-releases, Legacy, and now Modern all at our store on a regular basis.
Yeah. I'm only level 31. And I have no intentions to play formats I hate to reward Wizards for their asshattery.
Alcohol and Commander is seeming like a better and better idea. Screw real formats.
As if Alcohol and Commander was a bad idea.
What? I only played 1 GPT and a couple drafts, and I am a Lvl 16 Adept. I like WotC even more.
Wow, I just went through my whole list and I was getting more points for FNM's placing crappy than winning Legacy, Vintage, decent placings in Grand Prixs, and even one win in a PTQ. FNM's are heavy, heavy weighted. Though I did get a ton for GP Columbus for some reason, but not GP Chicago and I placed higher in Chi town. I don't get this system.
Out of curiosity, how weighted it is for one of those SCG tournaments? I have never been to one of those so I wondered.
I just realized Byes at GP also award points. So i got +24 +24 +24 for the first three rounds of GP Madrid without even playing those. Seems strange.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
I don't like this system :(
I finally got my rating up to 1800 and with this new system my rating got punted toward the end of the list.
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Multiplier=1. Same as any other non-premier.
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So Top 8 at a Starcity is less than playing at a local FNM?
Great story.
From SCG:Louisville:
Event Type: Magic WPN Premium Tournament
Event Multiplier: x 3
Players: 203
Participation Points: 15
Format: Legacy
Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
Tom? Is that you? I thought you were going to go work on DnD?
It is almost like SCG aren't sanctioned :)
That's less awful then, but still. FNM needs to be knocked down to at least no more than 2.
That's odd. Mine from SGC Indy
Event Type: Magic Tournament
Event Multiplier: x 1
Players: 286
Participation Points: 6
Format: Legacy
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana, United States
EDIT: It was clearly sanctioned differently.
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It definitely provides very little incentive to do anything but large tournaments and FNM.
Tom? Is that you? I thought you were going to go work on DnD?
SCG Opens are x3.
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