Quote Originally Posted by Apex View Post
I mentioned the Chrome Mox thing some pages ago too, and it also DOES suck as a 4 of. In most of my goldfishings, the amount of time I REALLY needed a Chrome Mox to combo prior to AdN was almost non-existent, which is why I proposed a 2 Chrome Mox inclusion as opposed to the full set of 4. Since you only really wanted to see it after AdN to ensure that you don't fizzle, 4 Lotus Petal and 2 Chrome Mox should mean that your expected value of seeing 0cc mana sources after you cast an AdN and drew a bunch of card is 2 (this is a rough calculation that takes into account the amount of card selection you get with Brainstorm/Ponder/Mystical/Fetches), which is just enough for the usual double U needed to Mystical+Ponder/Brainstorm into a Tendrils.

As for Cabal Ritual, I've announced my hate of it a long time ago. I wish we didn't have to run it, but I just can't find anything better.
Agreed, Chrome Mox is a card that's bad pre-combo and good post-combo, I'd rather just wait another turn to go off or go off with Ill Gotten Gains depending on how the deck is built.

I don't M.Tutor + Cantrip for Tendrils tho', I IT + LED for most of the games, even dropping LED + Land and discarding to 7 can still win.

I think you guys are too reliant on Ad Nauseam, I'm just using it as a singleton to break Mystical Tutor, it's really all you need IMO.