Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
Very true, but the same could be said for so many decks. If opponents aren't bringing in any graveyard hate chances are it wont make much difference what version of Ichorid you're running (combo being the obvious exception). I think we agree though that if they (meaning Tempo Thresh like decks) are bringing in graveyard hate that LEDless versions have an edge over those with LED.
Team America and Thrash have much better game against LED Ichorid post-board than they do against the LED-less lists simply because those lists run more land. This makes Wasteland, Daze, and to a degree, Stifle more effective, mainly post-board when Ichorid needs to resolve spells to stop their hate. It's also because LED-less lists run more permanent discard outlets, and both of the mentioned decks have a relatively slow clock.

The irony here is that neither of these decks have a prayer game one against LED Ichorid, while the slower version makes their disruption more relevant since they have time to use it. And if you land an early discard outlet, or they don't draw their hate post-board, they still don't have a shot. So the truth is that neither rightly runs graveyard hate. Ichorid is pretty easy to dodge, and even if they do run hate, the odds of these decks getting it, and being able to play it in a relevant time against LED versions is so slime that they would actually be doing themselves a disservice in replacing more relevant cards from their sideboard unless they suspect a high metagame concentration of grave-dependant decks. I've beaten Team America after they side in Crypt without ever having a single mana, just because their clock was so slow.

The gist is, with either version against these decks you either hope to land a discard outlet, and just play as if they have no GY hate, don't sideboard, and attempt to blow through what they might have (LED), or play the slow game, and hope they can't burn or Tombstalker you out (LED-less).