Quote Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION View Post
Gratz on the finish. I saw you run no canopies. Do you not like them? Even in builds with thoctar I usually like to have one or two.

I was going to comment on no md jitte since I know how much you love that card but I see you already spoke about it.

You didn't find 4 mancers to be too many? I usually run 3 and whenever I run 4 I feel like I end up with multiples too often.

I agree with your analysis of library, but I still like it against anything that plays wasteland since it helps me draw out of mana screw. Sometimes I side one out in the mirror, but not always. Do you side them out for the mirror?

How do you generally feel about this deck's thresh matchup? I've lost to it very few times, but I keep seeing people say it's a bad mu for us? I'm just curious to your thoughts since you've probably played the matchup a lot I assume.
I ran Canopy for about 4 months or so when i picked up the deck, and it was alright at best for me. I often found myself having to choose between drawing a free card or playing a spell, and it messed up my Ape/Nacatl land stipulation too many times. I guess i got unlucky and drew it alot or something, so i cut it in favor of another fetch and kept adding fetches. It's a fine card but hasn't been good to me.

Yeah i think I'm going to add Jitte back in the main since more Eva Green/Suicide Black/Random aggro decks are gaining popularity again. It was MVP in the matches i used it in.

I also like playing 21 lands. Not many Zoo players can say that they've had there turn one land stifled and their second Wasted and recover, but the one extra land has mattered for me alot. Sure some games I'll get a land heavy hand, but it's worth it in the other matchups.

Mancer was good. I don't see why people jerk off to him though. I liked running 4 because he IS going to die in most situations because people have rational and irrational fears about him, so they waste removal, and i keep my other creatures. Plus he is a good card.

I didn't side them out in the mirror because i felt like in the mirror you either win quick or get into topdeck mode, which happened to me games 2 and 3, so it was worth it. Lightning Helix is key here and fetching to shuffle garbage away when you need removal is awesome. I boarded Swords in against the mirror and they are really that good.

I feel like they're mana denial package can fuck you up, and since they have filtering effects to help, that it's worse off then say EvaGreen. Their bolts kills your creatures, BUT most of your creatures trade with Mongoose in combat so that is a positive. They just filter cards better, but their threats are lacking so if you land enough you'll get through.