Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
I think Land Grant needs to go. The deck already has problems with lands (at least in my experience it has been inconsistent in land drops, either too many or too few). Having lands that can be forced/dazed/spell snared/spell pierced doesn't look good to me. Bounty of the Hunt isn't good enough to justify the strategy IMO. I think Troll Ascetic looks good in the normal shell actually. Provided you can get Scryb Rangers out, you can hit 3 mana via play rangers with 2 forests, on the following turn, attack with rangers, 2nd mainphase tap forest, return forest, untap rangers, tap 2 forests hitting 3 mana.
I know Rangers generate mana, that's why I said they're in there to help cast Troll

I don't actually like Land Grant either, I'm perfectly willing to consider something like a 16 land, 4 Ranger build with no Land Grant. It's probably what I'll end up doing to be safe, but I think it's best to start with testing Grant just to be sure that I don't want it, then to cut it later. However, I think you're underestimating Bounty quite a bit. It provides a way to dump horrific chaff spells like ESG or multiple Rangers, which you still really want to play because T1 Ranger or T2 Troll is amazing. It looks worse on paper than it tends to play ingame.

What about Ohran Viper? I've been testing him in other decks and he has been tight! Your opponent usually doesn't want to block him so he can fill up your hand, can trade with goyfs, KoTR's, and has synergy with scryb rangers via your opponent is attacking, play scryb rangers in response, return a forest untapping Viper and blocking. If you have one in play, it can turn scryb rangers into a kill spell. I always liked seeing him in my testing with him (not in berserk stompy but in other decks). At the worst he eats an STP or trades with another creature, at best he draws you cards and/or discourages the opponent from attacking.

Thoughts?
Is he better than Cold-Eye Selkie, who's still pretty slow? He's far less evasive against the format and draws fewer cards, but killing Goyf is pretty sick. It's worth testing, but I suspect he's kind of on the slow side.



EDIT -- Bunch of rephrasing, hope you didn't start responding before I finished. Sorry!