Quote Originally Posted by HokusSchmokus View Post
My problem with Gorian is that he makes us a turn slower at the least against non blue decks and blue decks withfew counters.Against combo and nic fit this can be deadly.
Also with that many dredgers, starting off with ddd is viable too.

Im gonna test Hollywood's list at my local tourney with a different board,going to comment on possible changes later.
I've put in more than my fair share of testing with dredge in all of its incarnations and I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe Phantasmagorian is slower in regards to your fundamental turn, altho' DDDing game 1 obviously gives them first mover advantage and it can seem like that.

We're pretty much already cold to Storm, it doesn't matter how much you try they are comming out on top in the match up. I think it's more important just to be unshakably good at the match ups where we just refuse to play Magic and roll them unfairly.