Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
Its not just Dreturns/Reforge, War Strike, IT... the Wishboard is rarely used effectively for anything other than EtW. This is in part because you can't consistently expect to have a business spell in hand when you only play 11 to begin with. Thats why I keep pushing people to try the wishless lists. I really do think BW is on its way out. Until you can find a mana source with it and just run EtW/(sorcery ritual) in the board to take up a mere 2 slots, I don't think I would ever play BW. Its just EtW + 1R and its counterable vs. going up to 4 EtW copies maindeck and playing other business spells instead like Reforge the Soul, Spoils of the Vault. Hell I'd rather play Spoils of the Vault over BW if I can find 1 of 4 copies of EtW with it. You avg. 1 copy of EtW every 15 cards; I can't remember the last time Spoils killed me in testing.

My problem with the wishless build is that you reduce the amount of cards you can go off with which in turn reduces the likelihood of going off with your opening 7. I know that the draw cards fix some of that but I'd never be comfortable keeping a 7 without a win condition. I agree that Burning Wish is almost never used except for Empty the Warrens but I still feeFl having 7 copies of EtW is better than 4. And the added bonus of being able to wish for cards that destroy hate isn't completely irrelevant. Also I'm not sure how I feel about Spoils of the Vault. It seems risky, and although you can't really recall a time where you've killed yourself off of it doesn't mean it can't happen or won't happen. Also splashing black is awkward in this deck. Red and green are pretty necessary and black adds another land because I wouldn't want to count solely on Lotus Petal and Manamorphose to create black mana. I'm not saying wishless is a bad idea. I'm sure it works fine for whoever uses it but I just prefer th build with BW. Neither one has better game against blue decks IMO which is really our only weakness