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I agree with Zotmaster and Mockingjay on Kozilek over Ulamog. I think there are generally other ways to deal with those situations without having to use Ulamog.

Delver: Repeal and Kozilek I feel are much better in this case than Ulamog. Against decks with Delver I usually hate having Ulamog but was usually fine with Kozilek.
Repeal is not tutorable. You can tutor for Ulamog and cast him next turn to kill a Delver and stay alive or just have him in hand and cast him to kill one Delver but with Kozilek you cast him, draw 4 cards and then get ranched in the air and die potentially.

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Clique: If a player is running Clique then the game is already going pretty long and it probably took them a while to find it. Not enough of a concern IMO. I've also used Karakas to swat them a few times to help me dig for stuff while staying alive.
Sometimes you just need to kill a flyer, it's definitely less of a concern than Delver.

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Karakas: I don't ever see a situation where you would destroy enemy Karakas. It's only upside for you. If they karakas kozilek you get 4 more cards if they karakas emrakul you just win.
If you can cast the Ulamog it's probably already irrelevant, but I have needled Karakas vs Miracles before because getting locked out with Venser & Karakas is a real thing. You should be afraid of that almost more than the early Entreat. If you're not, then you are either playing vs bad miracles pilots or bad miracles decks.

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Jace, the Mind Sculptor: Again the game would have to go really long for that to happen. Repeal on jace is also going to set them back hard but that's probably going to be countered. However I think Kozilek's Draw ability is much superior in this scenario.
Games vs Miracles can and do go long and when JTMS games go long they usually have CB + Top + Fow and you may have nothing, it's another out. Drawing 4 cards you may never get to resolve seems highly irrelevant vs a JTMS ticking up to ultimate.

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Liliana: Kozilek is generally going to do a good job here. They usually won't counter repeal liliana unless it's at 6 or something and the draw of kozilek will help with the +1 immensely while stalling the ultimate for a few turns drawing you into more gas.
Again, if you got Liliana at 6 or 7 and it's going to cack off half your lands, drawing 4 is OK but not great, they can ultimate you and play a 2nd Liliana and then make you sac your Kozilek. You can typically beat ultimate from Pox but not from BUG delver. I would say it's probably a push here between Kozilek and Ulamog.

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Humility, Ensnaring Bridge: If someone is running this mainboard I would be very surprised. I sideboard Krosan grip for these random cases though and Repeal also works.
Not mainboard, I also stopped playing K-grip. It comes up though. Repeal works better here for sure.

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Blood Moon: Also have Krosan Grip in sideboard plus force of will. Also make sure to fetch basic lands. I like having basic forest in my deck so I can copy it with vesuva and play prime time for 6 mana. Moon decks will also generally fear a 6/6 trampler.
FoW is generally bad vs Blood moon & REB decks, but sometimes you gotta do it because t1 Bloodmoon is very hard to beat. I know how you can play through a blood moon w/ Forest/Vesuva/Map, but having the Ulamog to cack off their Bridge afterwards is gravy. Sometimes they get 2x or 3x moon effects also, so being able to cack Bridge becomes even more relevant otherwise you can never repeal through their red blasts and you just lose to Jaya.


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Another thing to note is the interaction kozilek has with candels (3 cloudpost plus eye searches for it) and that I would be okay with casting kozilek whenever compared to Ulamog where it ends up being a dead card in 80% of the games I played with it.
3 Cloudposts + Eye + Candle casts Emrakul... not sure what Kozilek does better than Emrakul. Nothing is the answer.

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What we can agree on though is that emrakul DOES solve most problems and if a player has the ability to do so they should almost always choose Emrakul over Kozilek.

On a side note, I have tried Treasure Cruise and am really happy with it. It also allowed me to run enough blue cards to run Force of Will.
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