Quote Originally Posted by .dk View Post
You're making it more complicated than it needs to be. Ideally, you'd have 2 draws available - saw an SDT and Gitaxian Probe in hand, but it's not required. Tendrils is insurance. Doomsday, Probe into Shelldock, and hide Emrakul. Pass. Next turn, activate Shelldock, cast Emrakul, extra turn trigger, draw Lotus Petal. Pass... to yourself. Draw Dark ritual. Attack with Emrakul for 15. Cast Petal, Ritual, tap SDT to draw Tendrils, cast Tendrils for 6.

You can easily slow roll the pile too, if you want/need. Or make Shelldock, Emrakul, Dark Ritual, Tendrils, Doomsday is extra extra insurance. Don't forget that Shelldock shortens your pile by 1 card and that you have another draw on your extra turn from your Emrakul trigger.



If you want basic Island, then yes, I would run 2 Flats and 2 Strands. I would replace the 3rd Underground Sea with Island in that case. With all of the UR Delver decks everywhere, I was guessing that there would be less Wasteland around in general (and at least in my matches, I was right), and I would rather have the USea than Island. The 4 Flats/4 Delta fetch configuration gives you perfect access to all of your lands in my configuration - when you start adding in Island it gets a little weirder and you will sometimes get screwed by having the wrong fetch (you really need a swamp, both Seas are in play, and you have a Flooded Strand in your hand - sad days).

But one thing to remember is that we do have 4 Lotus Petals and a Chrome Mox, and those can help fix in a pinch as well. Chrome Mox exiling LDV is Underground Sea, after all. I cast cantrips off of Petals now and then as well, particularly when I'm transformed into Doomsday, as you don't need the non-land IMS density as high as you do with the maindeck.



That's a good idea - I'll add a section in the post.

As far as any larger competitive event that I'm taking seriously though, I always shuffle all 15 in and then take them out. Anything else is just laziness and giving away information to your opponent. :)
I guess i am making it more complicated, but thats also the beauty of Doomsday. There are near endless posibilities. The thing is seeing them in the moment you need to :-)

The more i think about the mana the more i am starting to feel that Tundra is the odd man out. In the situatipn you discribed you can offcourse get Scrubland to.
When playing TinFins are nearly always went for Island -> cantrip and t2 swamp. Holding back a fetch for white dual in case i need to cast the child.
Having both Tundra and Scrubland was only security. And the only white spell is childran anyway unlike regular tinfins (silence, pull from eternity, serenity).

I have played the list for a couple of games and at first it felt a bit akward playing 2 decks. Also the DDFT list felt weird missing Burning Wish, but the more i played it the more i am liking it. Its like playing ANT while normally you play TES. Also pulled of some T1 kills with doomsday. thats just awesome if you first pulled of a t0 Griselbrand plus Emrakul....

Edit: the list is like perfect. I dont think that there is anything i could/want to change other than that basic Island..