[Deck] Dredge

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So based on that analysis, what kinds of anti-hate should folks run online? Seems like 3-4 Firestorm and 3-4 Natures Claim, but that doesn't cover all the hate (Extirpate/Extraction).

I usually run between 3-4 of both, most often 4.
(I don't play online anymore, I got sick of people rage-quitting if they don't get a god hand in their first 7)

If I side in an answer, I want to see it. I ran 4 Claims and a single Wear/Tear for a little while simply to make sure I found an answer in my grip. Not ideal from what everyone is saying, as siding in more than 4 in Dredge isn't ideal > I completely understand and also agree in some part on this thought, but finding one when you need it is far better than not.
JimmytheGreek makes a very good point, that a lot of the time siding in answers doesn't help. I've been there.
Having to actually draw it, rather than flashback/dredge as answer, is a problem of dredges' deck strategy that works against us.
I prefer to be on the side of having answers, than going fearless for the matchups where it counts. For many matchups however I will go fearless to try and beat them for speed.
FWIW, those Evoke creatures are nice to get around CHalice.

If they find that one copy of Rest in Peace, and play it on T2? Bless their heart.

But that's the thing. Many decks run maindeck hate like DRS, and quite a few have more substantial hate in the side that stops us cold.
Sure there will be times when a player doesn't plan for dredge/gravehate, but they are usually in the minority where I play.

[EDIT: Forget what I was saying about Phantasmagorian. The more I goldfish it the less I feel like it does what we would want...

I felt the same way when I tested it.

One of the big problems with our deck is that if a spell doesn't have flashback, we can't assume we'll ever get the chance to play it. (For that reason I'm not running PImps; they're the worst one-drop we can play and we don't want to play them just to fuel Ichorids.)

I don't agree they're the worst 1-drop we can play.
At current I play Street Wraith as DRS is everywhere, but I don't think that Pimp is a poor choice compared to SW, more like a preference, kinda like the difference between Flame-Kin Zealot & Dragonlord Kolaghan.
You're proba gonna be forced to choose between the two of these unless they print something better.


::: Fingers crossed the new set gives us a few new toys ::::