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Well I don't think playing no permanents is necessarily the way to go. Candelabras aren't even that bad if you hold off on casting them (a very common situation vs abrupt decay) so bouncing them shouldn't be that big of a deal. Sensei's Divining Top is Sensei's Divining Top (plus bouncing it isn't even that bad, though I can imagine situations having to cast it again would be really invasive or difficult).

I was disappointed with the results against eldrazi too, especially because the main reason I wanted to try and include it was as a way to improve the eldrazi matchup while having applications in many others without having to splash. I was finding that I was having color constraints with a 3 color splash way more often than I was comfortable with. I may try going with some number of Moment's Peace but that card feels too narrow to really be a 4-of.

You can look up Devastation Tide Turbo Eldrazi/12-post and you will see some really early pages of this thread where Rock Lee is playing lists with 4 tides and talking about how good they are.

My list isn't really refined, it's pretty much a standard UG 12-post except with Tides and without needles. Also messing with the idea of going back to 4 Show and Tells.
My thoughts as well. A nice all-around card that can shore up the eldrazi match-up, without having to splash for another color (which i think is 2 greedy - especially when i'm getting mana screwed running "only" 2 colors - it's basically three colors if you count colorless...) . Sadly, after more testing and more disappointments i think devastation tide falls into the fun2play category. I played a few more games where i thought the card would prove its worth, but instead it just postponed the inevitable. Still I don't want to dismiss the card altogether because i may be misplaying it.

Lately I'm always playing 2-3 MPs in the board. Don't forget that it can help against stuff like burn as well. The last live tournament i played i won against burn mostly because MPs were extremely useful against his monasteries and guides.