So what do you bring in Dragonlord Dromoka in against? I noticed it takes the gaddock Teeg spotOriginally Posted by k_omega
At all, I'll post my current GW build next time when I sit down at Mtgo.
It's there for Delver and, to a lesser extent, Burn. Against Delver it is a bomb that blocks fliers and gains life that they essentially can't kill (being out of Delver/Clique + Bolt range), that can be resolved without first finding a Cavern, and that also protects subsequent bombs and Crop Rotations. Also it can be fetched with GSZ. Against Burn, it's there to get in play just before you are forced to sacrifice a Glacial Chasm. Ordinarily the opponent could Price you in your upkeep afterward and you die, but Dromoka gives you one unmolested turn to attack with a lethal team, or at least gain 5 life and get some Titan triggers.
Unfortunately I have yet to actually draw or successfully GSZ for Dromoka in any game where I brought it in, so the above explanation is all theoretical. I cut Gaddock Teeg because I found it far too vulnerable to removal, it shuts down my own GSZs, Ugins, and Engineered Explosives, it can't come down before turn 3 through GSZ or requires you to find G and W on turn 2 which is tough, it doesn't stop the opponent from cantripping for answers, and it does nothing in the Delver matchup which I wanted to improve.
a.k.a. Eddy Viscosity
I'm currently on GW. Looking for some good video footage of gameplay of this version. I've watched everything that has been provided by SCG. Does anyone know of any other good resources?
Here is my current list with GW I've been tinkering with. Sorry for the bizzare order, blame MTGO.
1 Emrakul, the Promised End
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
2 Expedition Map
3 Forest
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
2 Vesuva
3 Crop Rotation
1 Eye of Ugin
4 Windswept Heath
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
3 Savannah
3 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Karakas
2 Primeval Titan
1 Glacial Chasm
2 Cavern of Souls
2 Primeval Titan
1 Veteran Explorer
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Renegade Rallier
3 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Khalni Garden
1 Candelabra of Tawnos
1 Krosan Grip
1 Reclamation Sage
2 Sphere of Resistance
1 Gaddock Teeg
2 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Walking Ballista
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Krosan Grip
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Blessed Alliance
Tried the traditional UG version, actually Rock Lee's list with two changes, against 4c Loam. IMO a difficult MU, and I got crushed 0-2. Changes made to the list: -1 Tropical Island, - 1 Ulamog, +1 Verdant Catacombs, +1 Kozilek. The match has been captured on cam, and I post the link below. It's only for your entertainment, and it was me who lost, not the deck! ;-)
https://youtu.be/baBlYpXj3dk
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Watched your match. good example of how facing knight is one of the most challenging aspects of the deck. Also why I moved upto 3 show and tell. The matchup simply blows apart with its casting.
Thanks for your feedback! I always play 4 Show and Tell in my BUG build, despite the fact that sometimes it "only" acts as an Explore or "forces" SDT through Chalice @1😁 How do you fight against Elves?
I will give this God a try! Has flying, indestructable. Activated ability is "draw a card, you may return a land you control to your hand". Sounds pretty good to me!
Rock welcome back man!
I’ve been too busy with work and other stuff to play in live events in recent months, but I have been brewing late at nightsTested several angles and some cards that I haven’t seen in use lately. I’ll keep it short and exclude the really cute stuff I messed with, though much of the below is still very much adorable
Tried to make a dreadnought post work, utilizing phyrexian dreadnought, trinket mage, stifle and trickbind. Fun to play, but I didn’t have much success with it.
Tried a mimic build, utilizing progenitor mimic + terastodon. While the combo is really badass, if you can get it online, the build itself doesn’t work that well. I guess you need natural order for this combo.
Currently, I’m testing a shardless build, using shardless agent, coiling oracle and glint-nest Crane. Still figuring out how many artifacts to run for crane. Currently, I’m at 15 mainboard and it seems to be okay. One gets so much value out of casting shardless -> crane -> fetching an artifact or shardless -> oracle -> extra land drop or card.
I tried to splash B for decay and deluge, but I don’t like it, I find it too inconsistent and confusing, I guess my mind is operating strictly on UG basis. Also tried to play ancestral visions but didn’t like it. Maybe the best thing that will come out of this is glint-nest crane. I have a feeling that the deck could really benefit by including this card, at least the artifact-heavy versions. Though it’s a pity it’s a 1/3 flyer instead of a 2/2 or something – doesn’t kill a flipped Delver.
Cards:
Fact or fiction – I really like this one as a 1-2 of. Finds everything you need. It is a bit expensive, but it gets the job done. Has anyone been using it lately? The fact that it's not color demanding and a 4cmc that digs deep, got me out of being locked out of games on several occasions, for example, chalice locking me out of brainstorm/top or a super annoying Sanctum Prelate or two (ugh i hate this card) naming ridiculous numbers. But they never ever name 4.
Cyclonic Rift – I’m still undecided on this one. Doesn’t draw you a card and you can’t bounce your stuff but on the other hand, it beats chalice, and you can cascade into it or use it in an omni build. I originally started to play it in my omni build, since repeal doesn’t work with omni. When you can overload this puppy, you’re usually on your way to victory.
Cards I noticed but haven’t tested yet:
Bind – did anyone test with this card in the past? Seems like it has a little bit of repeal / trickbind combined into a green card
Pulse of Murasa – could be useful for certain builds, much like grapple, though you don’t have to dredge yourself. Gain 6 life could also be a nice bonus.
@Postman I don’t think indestructible matters all that much in legacy and the fact that you need 7 cards in hand to be able to block or attack gives me pause. His ability looks better since you can draw a card and save a land with a single activation, though the activation is a bit expensive.
I really like the B - splash, playing 3 Toxic Deluge. This card is just amazing, cleaning the battlefield by paying 3 Mana plus 2-3 life is a cool deal to me. It helps against Elves (sometimes, depending on who starts the game), D&T, all kinds of Delver, Pyromancer etc... But even killed a fatty against Reanimator 😎
I don't want to use the God as a creature, just to draw an extra card EOT in midgame or to avoid a Wasteland activation
I don't think it really feeds into card advantage as you would think. Also, the land return i guess could be a decent answer to a wasteland but past that not helpful to put yourself back a land. Having enough cards in hand for it to attack is also a big problem. You shouldn't be holding onto too many cards just to get this thing to attack. Swords kills it. Terminus tucks it away. Just not seeing its usefulness. I rather run Crucible of Worlds and / or Explore for the same abilities.I will give this God a try! Has flying, indestructable. Activated ability is "draw a card, you may return a land you control to your hand". Sounds pretty good to me!
Champion of Rhonas in AKH definitely looks interesting... It could work in some of the mono green or colorless/green builds where S&T isn't an option.
Isn't this basically just Elvish Piper unless you have a way of giving it haste?
Ah, yeah. You're absolutely right. I missed that completely.
Unrelated to current spoilers. I was digging through some of my old decklists from when I streamed at least occasionally and found a bunch of brews. A few seemed so shitty that I was too scared to even try running them, but I've been really low on inspiration with the deck so I thought I'd dump them here to see if anybody could take the ideas, run with them, and make them not bad. Bad names are just a bonus. Formatting is from Cockatrice and I'm too lazy to sort it. I don't know if or when I'll start streaming again, but like I said, right now I'm out of ideas.
Tax Post
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Vesuva
4 Candelabra of Tawnos
4 Crop Rotation
5 Forest
3 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Karakas
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
3 Thorn of Amethyst
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Elephant Grass
1 Wastes
4 Expedition Map
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Cavern of Souls
3 Lodestone Golem
SB: 3 Thought-Knot Seer
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
SB: 3 Spatial Contortion
SB: 3 Phyrexian Revoker
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Lifegain Post
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Vesuva
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Karakas
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Crucible of Worlds
4 Crop Rotation
3 Expedition Map
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Candelabra of Tawnos
3 Retreat to Kazandu
2 Alhammarret's Archive
3 Oracle of Mul Daya
3 Courser of Kruphix
8 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Windswept Heath
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Misty Rainforest
3 Staff of Domination
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
SB: 4 Sphere of Resistance
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Spatial Contortion
SB: 1 Wastes
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Thought-Knot Seer
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Crucible Post
4 Cloudpost
4 Vesuva
4 Glimmerpost
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Karakas
1 Glacial Chasm
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Wastes
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Expedition Map
3 Candelabra of Tawnos
4 Crop Rotation
4 Elephant Grass
3 Crucible of Worlds
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
7 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Windswept Heath
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Wasteland
2 Karn Liberated
SB: 4 Sphere of Resistance
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Spatial Contortion
SB: 2 Thought-Knot Seer
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16-Post
4 Cloudpost
4 Vesuva
4 Glimmerpost
4 Thespian's Stage
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Karakas
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Bojuka Bog
5 Forest
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Windswept Heath
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
3 Maze of Ith
1 Wasteland
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Crop Rotation
4 Candelabra of Tawnos
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Tireless Tracker
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
3 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Avenger of Zendikar
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Thought-Knot Seer
SB: 4 Sphere of Resistance
SB: 2 Dismember
SB: 1 World Breaker
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
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And probably the stupidest idea I've come up with, that would need a ton of work if it could work at all...
12-Post Superfriends
4 Cloudpost
4 Vesuva
4 Glimmerpost
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Glacial Chasm
6 Forest
4 Eureka
4 Oath of Nissa
3 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
3 Karn Liberated
2 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
3 Expedition Map
3 Crop Rotation
3 Candelabra of Tawnos
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Nahiri, the Harbinger
3 Pithing Needle
4 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Misty Rainforest
SB: 4 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 Moment's Peace
SB: 2 Cursed Totem
SB: 4 Sphere of Resistance
Yes, you probably need Candelabra if you're running a Cloudpost deck.
http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2016/04/32966/
This is what I tried and tested for a bit. It was semi-viable but certainly needed some updating which I have done. This is where I am currently. Post board the combo match up is super easy, pre-board you have a decent fair match up.
12 post walking rug (62)
// Lands
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Cloudpost
2 Forest
4 Glimmerpost
1 Island
1 Karakas
2 Maze of Ith
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Tropical Island
4 Vesuva
1 Volcanic Island
// Creatures
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
// Spells
4 Brainstorm
3 Candelabra of Tawnos
2 Chandra, Flamecaller
3 Crop Rotation
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Kozilek's Return
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
2 Oath of Jace
4 Oath of Nissa
2 Pithing Needle
3 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Sorin, Grim Nemesis
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
// Sideboard
SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 4 Force of Will
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 3 Pyrostatic Pillar
SB: 3 Teferi's Response
I'm glad I'm not the only one to try something ridiculous. I'm curious as to your choice of Walkers, though. I chose mine based on the fact that they all answer permanents and they all can win the game by themselves. I still want to find a way to make Eureka work, but perhaps dipping into another color - or blue, at the very least - like you did might make something like this possible.
Or maybe it's just ridiculous and we're ridiculous too. Who knows?
Yes, you probably need Candelabra if you're running a Cloudpost deck.
Not sure, but there may be a UG Eldrazi Post Deck in the Top 8 @Worcester, at least the commentators just told the viewers. Who is the pilot?🤷🏻*♂️ Good luck, Mr X! 👍
into_play is there I believe, so it's probably him!
Yes, you probably need Candelabra if you're running a Cloudpost deck.
Let's hope it's him and we'll see him on cam... @finals
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