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    Re: U/R Delver

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    Taking UR Delver to the Worcester Open tomorrow. Gonna get the #prowessgang all together.
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    Re: U/R Delver

    Potentially a couple new cards for the deck:

    Cryptic Serpent 5UU
    creature - serpent
    costs 1 less to cast for each instant and sorcery in your graveyard
    5/6

    Probably just worse than bedlam reveler, but technically could be playable.

    Harsh Mentor 1R
    Creature - Human Cleric
    Whenever an opponent activates an ability of an artifact, creature, or land on the battlefield, if it isn't a mana ability, Harsh Mentor deals 2 damage to that player.
    2/2

    Potentially a Sideboard card. Doesn't trigger off planeswalkers, but fetchlands, deathrite, sensei's diving top, aether vial, wasteland, port, cavern harpy, griselbrand, and I'm sure much more that I'm forgetting all set it off.

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsrocket_27 View Post
    Potentially a couple new cards for the deck:

    Cryptic Serpent 5UU
    creature - serpent
    costs 1 less to cast for each instant and sorcery in your graveyard
    5/6

    Probably just worse than bedlam reveler, but technically could be playable.

    Harsh Mentor 1R
    Creature - Human Cleric
    Whenever an opponent activates an ability of an artifact, creature, or land on the battlefield, if it isn't a mana ability, Harsh Mentor deals 2 damage to that player.
    2/2

    Potentially a Sideboard card. Doesn't trigger off planeswalkers, but fetchlands, deathrite, sensei's diving top, aether vial, wasteland, port, cavern harpy, griselbrand, and I'm sure much more that I'm forgetting all set it off.
    Harsh Mentor, eh? Seems pretty neat eh? (my am I ever being Canadian) I would love to test this cards as a sideboard card. Let's go Wizards printing some very punishing hate. The main problem is it is a creature that easily gets hit by Swords to Plowshares, Abrupt Decay, Lightning Bolt, etc. and doesn't punish the opponent for removing it like Eidolon of the Great Revel does. Not that it is bad, however this is an obstacle for this card. We will see if it will make the cut.

    I was looking at Cryptic Serpent earlier today and thinking the same thing. It is just missing something that makes it more than a fat creature on the board. The thing I would compare it to most is a Tombstalker that doesn't fly, which is what turns me off for this card. If we are paying for this (ideally) we should be getting something that flies. At least Bedlam Reveler can refill your hand and it has prowess.
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    Re: U/R Delver

    Harsh Mentor seems near, and could potentially be a sb-slot. Eidolon seems more devastating, but I'm willing to try a couple.

    EDIT: it also hits a Griselbrand-activation, which is nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatto View Post
    Harsh Mentor seems near, and could potentially be a sb-slot. Eidolon seems more devastating, but I'm willing to try a couple.

    EDIT: it also hits a Griselbrand-activation, which is nice.
    Does it really matter that it hits G-Brand though. Not much difference in them paying 7 or 9 life because they're not going to do either and just slaughter the burn deck with their 7/7 life linker.

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by Rascalyote View Post
    Does it really matter that it hits G-Brand though. Not much difference in them paying 7 or 9 life because they're not going to do either and just slaughter the burn deck with their 7/7 life linker.
    No, it doesn't matter at all, but it could be relevant from time to time.
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    SB card? that makes every fetchland of the opponent a L.Bolt

    huge against any DRShaman deck and autoinclude 4 of against Miracle.

    Additionally if it sticks it is as good vs Aluren as Eidolon (Aluren needs creatures activated ability to win).

    Being one sided, 1 would play it as a 1or 2 MD and the other to close the full set in SB.

    Not less than 4 in any aggro red based deck imho.

    Only Storm doesn't care about it

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    I think mentor could go mainboard.

    Cards it hits that are common in legacy:
    All fetches
    Aether Vial
    DRS
    Top
    Any equipment, particularly Jitte
    Stoneforge Mystic
    Griselbrand
    Thespian's Stage

    And these cards are just everywhere. Yeah it dies to removal, so does pretty much everything but this fits our low curve and is a great for controlling tempo of the game and ultimately advances our gameplan of burning down our opponent. I'd definitely try a couple mainboard, maybe in place of stormchaser mage. You may well board them out in some matchups, but that's fine, it hits so many common decks it is worth it imo.

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    it just doesn't get planeswalkers.. too bad

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by pateuglow View Post
    Taking UR Delver to the Worcester Open tomorrow. Gonna get the #prowessgang all together.
    How'd you do?
    Did you play against Pox round 6?
    if so, that was me, and they were good games!

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    Re: U/R Delver

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    Additionally if it sticks it is as good vs Aluren as Eidolon (Aluren needs creatures activated ability to win).
    Not impressive against the drain 2 owl.

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Well, for one thing: it counters the 'gain 2 life'. With some early damage in (what isn't impossible because Aluren being 4cmc) you'll be winning that race: bounce and drain yourself again :-) So I disagree, Mentor is fine against Aluren.
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    it's ok vs Aluren but a bit slow maybe, I wouldn't board any in for that matchup.

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    it's ok vs Aluren but a bit slow maybe, I wouldn't board any in for that matchup.
    Aluren is inevability, albeit slow as well. Lately they have dropped counters for discard, so chances are you can drop one or two during the game. Still, you're probably right.

    What about this card:



    At first glance yes, but on second thought no? What do you guys think?
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    yeah the dragon is nice.

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    I'm not so sure about the dragon. Spellheart Chimera hasn't been good enough till now, though this survives bolt, which is something.

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatto View Post
    Well, for one thing: it counters the 'gain 2 life'. With some early damage in (what isn't impossible because Aluren being 4cmc) you'll be winning that race: bounce and drain yourself again :-) So I disagree, Mentor is fine against Aluren.
    You do realize the difference between "fine" and "impressive", right? ;)

    As for the Dragon: In which world would you not play TNN first?

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    Re: U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by JDK View Post
    As for the Dragon: In which world would you not play TNN first?
    A world where swords to plowshares is a banned card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDK View Post
    Not impressive against the drain 2 owl.
    the drain 2 owl needs Cavern Harpy's ability that with this Mentor is a 3 life loss each time combo.

    This Mentor just kill Aluren combo if it sticks (but it will not)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    A world where swords to plowshares is a banned card.
    Abrupt Decay is still a card

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