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    Shai Hulud!
    I think this is a reference to certain spices flowing, but I never got past the first book, so...

    Anyway, this seems like a spiffy new toy for Enduring Ideal decks, at least.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Just a little note to put this "every card that lets you sacrifice something is a Nic Fit card" to rest.

    Consider the order of things for a second. If a card requires you to have 3/4+ land before it lets you sacrifice Veteran Explorer you don't need to sacrifice Veteran Explorer anymore by the time you can cast and/or activate that card, making it utterly useless. Furthermore, the creatures Nic Fit looks for have to be green (it's a GSZ-deck after all) and therefor should get their conceptual CMC upped by 1 since you'll be looking to Zenith a 1-off more often than you'll cast it out of your hand and upped by 2 if you plan to GSZ it through a Daze (both of which are realistic scenarios). A 2 CMC green creature to kill off Explorer might seem cool but in practice you'll need 4 land before you can realistically resolve it, at which point you don't really care about the Explorer trigger anymore.

    That's why I don't bother with Starved Rusalka either.
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    The issue is that intent and a lot of other spells are super bad without a creature. Therapy isn't as bad, and when it's good, it's a 1 mana mind twist (which is still banned lol). Also, more spells means less creatures, but you still need a decently high creature count for your sac spells. Nic fit would really need a monumental card to make it playable nowadays. Like a thoughtseize with alt casting cost sac a creature. Hoping for a decent card in this expansion or the next that make use of -1-1 counters. The ones spoiled until now aren't good enough.
    Who plays intent without a dryad arbor in his nicfit list though? Intent is crazy good as it allows the explorer to ramp into a hymn to tourach that you can tutor up with it.

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    I played lots of Survival with Veteran Explorers back in the day. Greater Gargadon was by far the best card I could pair them with.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumC View Post
    I think this is a reference to certain spices flowing, but I never got past the first book, so...

    Anyway, this seems like a spiffy new toy for Enduring Ideal decks, at least.
    Shai-Hulud are in the first book, it's just the natives' name for the sandworms. Definitely worth another read, IMO.

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    I really like this card.

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    Is it just me, or does Evolving Wilds just continually get the best art?

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    Looking through the spoiler now.. yeah, it's official, Cycling is straight up Blue/Black this time. There's a much worse version of Lightning Rift in black that drains your opponent for 2 and costs 3 to cast, 1 to activate. There's also a black 1 drop that puts -1/-1 counters on creatures when you cycle. And a white Disenchant for 3 that exiles and cycles for 2. That is an amazing card and will see maindeck play in Legacy.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Black Delver plus . . . Blood Pet/Wild Cantor?

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    Vizier of Remedies is non-legendary Melira 5-8 in any deck that wanted to run more of her for the persist. More interestingly, Vizier plus Devoted Druid is infinite mana as early as T3.

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    Black Delver plus . . . Blood Pet/Wild Cantor?

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    Vizier of Remedies is non-legendary Melira 5-8 in any deck that wanted to run more of her for the persist. More interestingly, Vizier plus Devoted Druid is infinite mana as early as T3.
    I think you cast the Black delver after you Snuff Out or Fatal Push one of their guys.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Quote Originally Posted by danyul View Post
    I was about to say "Black Delver" as well, but on second thought, it isn't even that good. Being immune to AD is a plus, though.

    You still need to kill a creature to make it cheap, so even if you kill the opposing Delver/DRS/Hierarch/Mom, you could play it T2 the earliest. If your opponent only has few/no creatures, you're SoL.

    And I don't think it's worth any card disadvantage nonsense.

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    This one is interesting - the card referenced in the text doesn't exist yet. Might be a setup, just like Eye of Ugin:

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    Vizier of Remedies 1W
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    If one or more -1/-1 counters would be put on a creature you control, that many -1/-1 counters minus one are put on it instead.
    "You'll need all your strength for the trials to come."
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    How does that interact with Devoted Druid or Winding Constrictor?
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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

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    How does that interact with Devoted Druid or Winding Constrictor?
    Looks like a turn 3 infinite mana combo with Devoted Druid.

    Winding Constrictor would cancel it out.
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    Winding Constrictor would cancel it out.
    Isn't it order dependent if it's initially one -1/-1 counter?

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    I think you apply both replacement effects in the order you want. Either way, Vizier -1 (0) then Snake +1 (1) or vice versa results in one counter.

    Unless something in the rules comes out that if you hit zero counters then the effect fizzles. Then the order has to be snake vizier, and Devoted Druid doesn't work.
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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

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    Devoted Druid doesn't work.
    Hmm, it seems cut and dry, but I'm not a rules expert. Can you point out why this doesn't work?
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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Bone Picker seems pretty assy you guys, how is it Black Delver if it's never coming down turn 1 for without terribad things happening to your tempo. I think it'll be interesting in Limited but that's probably it
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    @TsumiBad - I think the point of Bone Picker is more of a midgame creature, when you can cast it for 1 after you kill something your opponent controls or after they kill one of yours on your turn. That's why Deathtouch is important on it, it can trade with a 'Goyf or something if it needs to.

    @Bruizar - that's a terrible list. For god's sake man, you don't even have Shadow of the Grave in there. I'll post a decent cycling list sometime, probably next week since I just found out I have to travel for work this weekend. On Easter. This is one of those times being salaried/no overtime really sucks.

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