All B/R update speculation.

[Pellefant]

I think most North Americans would tell you that Zoo was killed by Show and Tell and the decline of Merfolk.

European zoo player here, I also feel this statement is correct.

[btm10]

Decree of Justice used to be the win condition for UW control decks. Entreat is just another iteration.

That's kind of an absurd comparison. Entreat produces 20 power worth of evasive threats at instant speed for the same cost as cycling Decree for 4 1/1s. You can Miracle Entreat EOT to steal a game in which you're significantly behind in cards and on board without ever representing that you're setting up a one card combo kill, whereas setting up a kill through either of Decree's modes is only feasible if you've already won anyway.

[Lava Snacks]

Next update is in a week.

The only Amonkhet Invocation that's not legal in Legacy is Mind Twist.

Mind Twist is getting unbanned.

Debate me. Pro tip: You can't.

[Dice_Box]

Debate me. Pro tip: You can't.

Challenge accepted. Strip Mine.

[Chatto]

Challenge accepted. Strip Mine.

We have a winner.

[Lemnear]

We have a winner.

Debate on Mindtwist suffered a first round knockout. Barely worse than Ronda Rousey

[Lava Snacks]

Strip Mine is not an Amonkhet Invocation.

Rekt bc. you didn't listen to pro tips.

[Dice_Box]

Pro tips are just things the l33t say so the noobs can follow them and feel big. But since I am eXtrem l33t I don't need your pro tips.

[Chatto]

Strip Mine is not an Amonkhet Invocation.

Rekt bc. you didn't listen to pro tips.

Pro tips are just things the l33t say so the noobs can follow them and feel big. But since I am eXtrem l33t I don't need your pro tips.

What about now, Lemnear ;-)

[Lemnear]

What about now, Lemnear ;-)

Still waiting for unban of Mana Vault and Mana Crypt according to the Masterpiece/Invocation/Expedition logic here

[Chatto]

Still waiting for unban of Mana Vault and Mana Crypt according to the Masterpiece/Invocation/Expedition logic here

I'm with you. Meanwhile, i'll grab a beer.

[Lava Snacks]

Still waiting for unban of Mana Vault and Mana Crypt according to the Masterpiece/Invocation/Expedition logic here

Kaladesh Inventions had 3 cards banned in Legacy, not just 1.

Still.not.tired.of.winning.

[Dice_Box]

Still waiting for unban of Mana Vault and Mana Crypt according to the Masterpiece/Invocation/Expedition logic here

And Sol Ring. Oh be still my beating heart. Smokestack will again be a card the masses fear.

All will look to the heavens so cleen
To see towers of soot and death
And pray that all will remain pristine
But Choke out ones last breath

[Lemnear]

Kaladesh Inventions had 3 cards banned in Legacy, not just 1.

Still.not.tired.of.winning.

So the Expedition strip mine does not count because its no Invocation and masterpieces to not count because they were 3 cards. Cool. #FuckLogic

[Lava Snacks]

So the Expedition strip mine does not count because its no Invocation and masterpieces to not count because they were 3 cards. Cool. #FuckLogic

> Every Invocation legal but 1, so that's the odd one out, easy fix

> > Hey guyz what about this time there were 3 illegal ones? Same thing amirite??

[Dice_Box]

Of the Zendikar Expeditions, only Strip Mine was not legal in Legacy. I really thought you where kidding and having some fun, please tell me you don't really think this actually means anything.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Next update is in a week.

The only Amonkhet Invocation that's not legal in Legacy is Mind Twist.

Mind Twist is getting unbanned.

Debate me. Pro tip: You can't.

Checkmate atheists

[Barook]

People fighting the good fight:

[Emurian]

I don't know if im posting in the right section with this but I can't seem a thread that fits better with my remark when it comes to the Reserve list.

Ive seen multiple threads here that discuss the reserve list, plenty of people show support in abolishing the list in favour of a potential increase in players playing Legacy.

Now ive been reading those discussions, most people seem to agree that even though we discuss it, they don't see WoTC ever disbanding the list out of fear for repercussions from collectors.

So that got me thinking, what is the thing that people really want from the reserve list. Which boils down for a large part to the True duals. Other cards on the list are less being advocated, you see the occasional: Unban SotF or the goblin dude, but aside that people just want the lands to be available for new players.

Since Battle for Zendikar WoTC actually opened a way to [imo] solve this issue themselves relatively easy.

Why are they not printing true duals like:
Plateau #2:
Tap to add red, white or colorless.

Simply make the current duals better, adding colorless to the land would only make a minor impact on the current Legacy decks. Maybe Eldrazi or Thalia Stomphy profits from these lands, but aside that I don't see other decks that gain much of an advantage from the lands.

Is there any chance that someone at Wizards would come up with this idea and be bold enough to propose it for a Eternal Masters set?

[rubblekill]

Everything can be denied using the concept of the "spirit" of the reserve list. If they don't like it, it's against the spirit of the reserve list and therefore can't be printed.