Welcome back to the format
I welcome to our stoneblade, deathblade, combo deck returning overlords.Originally Posted by maharis
Amazing!
This most likely means that Stoneblade is back, UR Delver is better and Zoo gets to play again. I think Prelate on 1 gets a big boost and Maverick should very much be a real deck again!
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
Maverick is by far the most consistent non-blue deck now and it doesn't have to twist itself into a pretzel to beat Miracles. This is good for this deck even if I think banning top was largely shit.
I'm happy to roll with Knights again.
I'd previously been a big advocate for Aether Vial over GSZ, primarily because of its better Miracles matchup, but I think GSZ may be the way going forward.
100% agree. I didn't want anything banned. But I'm glad I'm a Maverick player and not a miracles player right now.
Screw top. It was 100% the correct call. Banning balance would have just left them with a deck full of predicts, snapcasters, counterspells and terminus, still tier 1. Wizards stance has always been to ban the enabler, glad they stood by their own standards.
Teeg takes a hit and can most likely go to SB, Pridemage needs to be a 2-3 if to make sure equipment die.
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
I feel like we still want teeg. It's good against storm and elves (even though winning g1 against elves feels like a crapshoot) and if stoneblade comes back with engineered explosives, supreme verdict and Jace I feel like teeg could be a reasonable 1 of in that matchup.
I do agree extra Pridemage is a thing.
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I'm so hyped! What changes should we make to our sideboard now that Maverick Christmas is finally happening?
Time to brew boiz!
In my sb I had garruk relentless for miracles mainly but it's still a fine grindy card. But I think I'm going to switch it to a toxic deluge (already being supported by 2x zp). I feel like deluge is really good against elves and infect, two bad matchups, and fine against DnT.
I was trying Garruk as well and was also thinking of dropping him. It did make our Shardless BUG matchup better but it's not like that changed much, it was mainly there for the deceased.
Gideon now counters all of the -1/-1 effects that will be everywhere, and he stomps BUG.
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
Well my friends we got some decisions. My guess is we have the return of stoneblade. Show and tell, elves and storm are going to be our major threats. Let's see some list!
My current list runs 3sfm and 3 equipment (SoLaS/SoFaI and jitte)....I am debating do I go back down to 2 sfm and just SOFI/JiTTE and add 2x Prelate to help with combo?
List would be as such
Creatures (25)
4x DRS
4x Mom
4x Thalia GoT
4x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Gaddock Teeg
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Scryb Ranger
1x Dryad Arbor
1x Qasali Pridemage
2x Stoneforge Mystic
2x Sanctum Prelate
Spells (13)
4x GSZ
4x Swords to Plowshares
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Sylvan Library
1x Umezawa's Jitte
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
Land (22)
1x forest
1x plains
4x windswept heath
3x verdant catacombs
4x wasteland
1x karakas
1x gaea's cradle
1x horizon canopy
1x cavern of souls
2x savanah
2x bayou
1x scrubland
Sb
2x ethersworn canonist
1x gaddock teeg
2x zealous persecution
1x toxic deluge
1x qasali pridemage
2x choke
2x surgical extraction
3x thoughtseize
1x pithing needle
Other options are to up the maindeck Qasali Pridemage to 2x and add something else relevant...Keep 3x sfm and replace Sword of Light and Shadow with Batterskull..Honestly not sure
edit: Another option is to take out Abrupt Decay for Prelate. Prelate's cost of 2 white is tough but it would mean there is no MD black and I could just focus on G/W. In matchups where I'd want prelate on 2 against BUG it would also feel bad to turn off my own decays. Choices choices.
I think this is pretty accurate. Most combo gets a boost from the banning. Elves definitely benefits. Wondering if other creature-based combo (Aluren, Food Chain) will also benefit. I also think D&T will gain somewhat as well, as their Miracles matchup was mediocre at best. Grindy BUG/Leovold/4c Pile decks will probably collectively be the default "best deck."
I think this change lets us perhaps move away from Abrupt Decay and more towards a straight G/W only shell aside from cards from the sideboard. Running a 4th Thalia might become the norm again if combo becomes more prevalent. Additional Stoneforge Mystics seem good and maybe even good old Batterskull might make a comeback.
As for other cards, I think perhaps Containment Priest might be worth playing once again to help combat D&T, Elves, Sneak and Show, Reanimator, and Dredge. Cutting the sideboard Gaddock Teeg is worth considering. Engineered Plague is a card I've wanted to fit in for some time - great against D&T, Elves, and even decks that run TNN.
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Still calling the deck dead? Sad, I was super excited to see that you posted in Mav after all this time.
We need to see where all the blue players flock, delver and stone blade will be popular but so will the DRS fueled 3-4 color decks. Sanctum Prelate on 1 shuts all of that crap down. I feel like my list from yesterday is even more viable now, maybe a sword change depending on what is played.
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
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