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    Storm is also pretty cheap online, good way to get your fix while you wait for things to settle down a bit.

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    I just got murked by fluctator storm. This is the darkest timeline.

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    It's hard for me to imagine these ten decks are representative of the meta to come.

    Even if it were a significant sample size, the meta is shaking up big time. If anything people are excited to play more combo is all. Either way, that kind of meta looks too exploitable to endure if it happens to be the start of a trend.

    Fish looks pretty good in that mix - running both CotV and FoW. Old Tezzerator lists used to run Forces along side Chalice too. Tezz has never had a chance to be developed and optimised - it has lots of options. Not to say we would need to dig up fringe decks to answer a combo heavy meta! Just musing on the possibilities. This is a very interesting time to be playing Legacy I think.
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    Re: The new Legacy metagame

    Food Chain might be underrepresented since it's a pain in the ass to play on MTGO.

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    Re: The new Legacy metagame

    Quote Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE View Post
    I just got murked by fluctator storm. This is the darkest timeline.
    As someone who's having fun working on a shadow of the grave fluctuator list, what did this list look like/include?

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    As someone who's having fun working on a shadow of the grave fluctuator list, what did this list look like/include?
    It was actually really funny. Treasure hunt, dark ritual, lotus petals, shadow of the grave, fluctuator, a bunch of cycling lands with a fluctuator cost, some fetches, some underground seas, and tendrils. Seemed horrible against any blue deck but I was playing Lands so whoops.

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    Why not Living Death over Tendrils?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Blood View Post
    Why not Living Death over Tendrils?
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    It sounds to me like people forgot that the cornerstone of the format is Discard+Counterspells. Your deck must have one or the other, or preferably both in order to be competitive... plus some removal.

    If you don't run interaction, combo will beat you.
    Why not play UB Reanimator and do all three?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE View Post
    It was actually really funny. Treasure hunt, dark ritual, lotus petals, shadow of the grave, fluctuator, a bunch of cycling lands with a fluctuator cost, some fetches, some underground seas, and tendrils. Seemed horrible against any blue deck but I was playing Lands so whoops.
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    Re: The new Legacy metagame

    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Blood View Post
    Why not Living Death over Tendrils?
    Pay 2bb and win now, or pay 3bb and win tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Pay 2bb and win now, or pay 3bb and win tomorrow

    Decisions, decisions
    Seems like it would be easier to get to critical mass with Living Death though and the one mana difference is largely irrelevant in a deck like this. Run some combo of Chalice, Sol Lands, FoW, Fluctuator, Cabal Ritual, Shadow of the Grave, Treasure Hunt and all the biggest blue and black cyclers.

    First turn Chalice second turn Fluctuator third turn profit with Chalice and FoW protection?

    What's the highest amount of non cycling cards this can run without bricking all the time?

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    The deck I was working on uses Lab Maniac as a win, which just seems better?

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    What's the highest amount of non cycling cards this can run without bricking all the time?
    Rufus and I tried doing the math here (starting from post 9): http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?31559-Shadow-of-the-Fluctuator

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    Forgot to mention it but he did win with labman in the second game since I got 3 spheres out. I'm not sure which is better in a vacuum but labman seemed pretty safe since he always had an insane amount of cycling cards in hand when going off. Split second stuff was good but he easily drew more fluctuators than I drew grips since he had a ton of lands and could just keep cycling. It was interesting and ended up being much better against my hate than normal storm would have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeron View Post
    Why not play UB Reanimator and do all three?
    That's certainly a valid option.

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    Re: The new Legacy metagame

    The ten 5-0 decks in today's MTGO Competitive Legacy Constructed League:

    Elves X3
    ANT X2
    Grixis Control
    Grixis Tempo
    Sneak & OmniShow
    Team America
    The Epic Storm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    The ten 5-0 decks in today's MTGO Competitive Legacy Constructed League:

    Elves X3
    ANT X2
    Grixis Control
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    Sneak & OmniShow
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    The Epic Storm

    Bunch of storm yesterday. More today plus Elves. If I'm playing an SCG or something soon I'm packing 3 Ethersworn Canonist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Bunch of storm yesterday. More today plus Elves. If I'm playing an SCG or something soon I'm packing 3 Ethersworn Canonist
    I am looking at 3Ball and Sphere.
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    Re: The new Legacy metagame

    Not terribly surprising to see a spike in Git. Probe representation after an effective CB ban. As much talk about DRS is next there is, Probe is the more likely target.

    Probably worth looking at legacy before the DTT ban where Git Probe was the largest driver of turning on the most successful decks. As SnT rises so too will Grixis Pyro decks; expect legacy to get more blue as a fxn of Probe/SnT vs Probe/Cabal. Should be a fun creative space for legacy as decks are forced more towards the mana floor and their quickest, meanest forms.

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