View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    No no no, it would be a blue card still.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Holy crap that'd be great!

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    You forgot the Instant Unmask Player: My turn? Reanimate targeting your Griselbrand.

    I guess it's worse when you are the person who is receiving the instant speed targeted discard.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore View Post
    No no no, it would be a blue card still.
    Maybe it's the gin and tonic laughing, but I got a good crack out of this
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    Wrong. Gideon Emblem protect you from losing and you can even open your binder and slam some cards on the board, not even the HJ can DQ you now.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Discard can only do that much in a format where Brainstorm is legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Discard can only do that much in a format where Brainstorm is legal.
    Eh, the two probable best decks right now both play Cabal Therapy, discard does alright.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Show and Tell can only do so much in a format where Tendrils of Agony is legal.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    Show and Tell can only do so much in a format where Tendrils of Agony is legal.
    I could be wrong, but I think Show and Tell has a good Storm MU; since it can end the game T2/T3 pretty easily, but packs reasonable countermagic. It's sideboard can also spell doom, between Blasts, Spierces, and Blood Moons. Storm is a robust deck, but I think it targets things like Elves, Lands, (all?) Midrange, and non-blue.

    Similarly, the other deck that runs S&T is UB Reanimator, which IIRC, is one of Storm's worst MUs.
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    Wrong. Gideon Emblem protect you from losing and you can even open your binder and slam some cards on the board, not even the HJ can DQ you now.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by tescrin View Post
    Storm is a robust deck, but I think it targets things like Elves, Lands, (all?) Midrange, and non-blue.
    Storm isn't that bad for Lands. Post-board I'm the favourite.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    At the very least, the matchup gets less interactive post board
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    At the very least, the matchup gets less interactive post board
    Eh?

    Pre-board it's primarily a race to combo. Neither player can do much else to interact. Games 2 & 3 they actually have to care about my board and target my permanents. Also I can Grip their rocks if they put them down early (trying to preemp a CotV).

    Post board is vastly more interactive. And I'm considering Warping Wail too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tescrin View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think Show and Tell has a good Storm MU; since it can end the game T2/T3 pretty easily, but packs reasonable countermagic. It's sideboard can also spell doom, between Blasts, Spierces, and Blood Moons. Storm is a robust deck, but I think it targets things like Elves, Lands, (all?) Midrange, and non-blue.

    Similarly, the other deck that runs S&T is UB Reanimator, which IIRC, is one of Storm's worst MUs.
    Show and tell has a very bad storm match up. Reanimator is a bad matchup for storm because it is much, much faster than Sneak&Show (probably faster than storm too), not because of the card Show and Tell. Also blood moon seems like a losing proposition against storm because TES will likely go faster than it, and ANT can just fetch basics and ignore it.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Hey, Dr. Jones' original poll finally makes its mark. The Source got Top banned!
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Not Legacy, but there has been an update for the 1v1 Commander MTGO list:

    http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/tagged/commander


    The following cards are added to the Commander 1v1 Banned List:

    Dig Through Time
    Strip Mine
    Treasure Cruise
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Hey, Dr. Jones' original poll finally makes its mark. The Source got Top banned!
    Looks like Tarmogoyf is next in line!
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    Looks like Tarmogoyf is next in line!
    Not if you edit the poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Not Legacy, but there has been an update for the 1v1 Commander MTGO list:
    Moat, Tabernacle, and now Strip Mine?

    Does nobody else find it ominous that WotC are "fun-policing" an eternal format?

    At least if they ruin MTG I can cash out on my decks.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    Moat, Tabernacle, and now Strip Mine?

    Does nobody else find it ominous that WotC are "fun-policing" an eternal format?

    At least if they ruin MTG I can cash out on my decks.
    I see it more as "Someone built a tuned Gitrog deck that I can power up with Bazaar".
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    That hardly explains why Moat and Tabernacle are not legal.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    That hardly explains why Moat and Tabernacle are not legal.
    Because it's an online only format that Wizard's is fucking with. Why does it matter? No one I know off line pays attention to this. If it's an issue online, well that's a topic for those who are masochistic enough to play with that program. In that case this is the lest of their issues.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    That hardly explains why Moat and Tabernacle are not legal.
    Because Commander is still really meant to be a creature-based format. Moat and Tabernacle straight neuter some Commanders right off the bat.

    EDH isn't supposed to be Highlander with a General.
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