Miracle Control

[Anseku]

Ok, what about ultimate hate: Leyline of sanctity?
No burn spells, no storm, no discard

More extreme is Aegis of Gods, but it dies from anything. But it's really cheap. T2 on play vs storm will give him some troubles, i think.

I think canonist is better than laboratory\Rule is because of clock. You play it, you start dealing damage and your opponent need to find answers, while you can prepare your hand and protect him.

SfM packadge is good vs some decks like eldrazy, where you can suddenly loose ton of your life, but not on t2 or t3, if you have yous StP prepared.


And i love this new deck. It's something like Miracles v3.0.1 beta :D If Mentor Miracles was v.2.0

[Gheizen64]

Time to call it Miracle 95. Can't wait for Miracle ME and Miracle Vista.

[Nestalim]

I am pretty sure than Canonist is just better, the fact is can be hit by anti artefact is irrevelant. I'm really happy if my storm opponent board in that types of card, as it will make them difficult to combo trough my counterspell and my clique/snap clock.

Also, Canonist is really superior against Aluren, as you can flash it on the board on the good timing.

[It Is Unfair]

Ok, what about ultimate hate: Leyline of sanctity?
No burn spells, no storm, no discard

More extreme is Aegis of Gods, but it dies from anything. But it's really cheap. T2 on play vs storm will give him some troubles, i think.

I think canonist is better than laboratory\Rule is because of clock. You play it, you start dealing damage and your opponent need to find answers, while you can prepare your hand and protect him.

SfM packadge is good vs some decks like eldrazy, where you can suddenly loose ton of your life, but not on t2 or t3, if you have yous StP prepared.


And i love this new deck. It's something like Miracles v3.0.1 beta :D If Mentor Miracles was v.2.0

I have also been thinking of Leylines, they are powerful for sure, and "solving" the burn issue would also be really good. But I haven't got around to testing it yet. I know some people tested Aegis of the Gods but since I never heard back from them about it I assume it wasn't a success.

[Whitefaces]

Yep, Canonists have been great, no need to change them for now imo, it's a good plan. I did try Aegis of the Gods too But Canonists are better.

Edit: Here's your answer about Aegis. It was good, but they were able to cantrip into removal a lot easier and still play EtW.

[Anseku]

Yep, Canonists have been great, no need to change them for now imo, it's a good plan. I did try Aegis of the Gods too But Canonists are better.

Edit: Here's your answer about Aegis. It was good, but they were able to cantrip into removal a lot easier and still play EtW.

Well, just as i thought.
Then, just pack more canonists and setup your hand, full of countermagic :D

[itrytostorm]

I like the benefits of being straight UW, but as more people pick this up, will red be necessary to combat mirrors?

[Whitefaces]

I like the benefits of being straight UW, but as more people pick this up, will red be necessary to combat mirrors?

I think so, yes. I wish we could stay straight UW and find something great for the mirror, but Pyroblast is too good.

[Anseku]

I like the benefits of being straight UW, but as more people pick this up, will red be necessary to combat mirrors?

UA to Jace -> Predict will do the job :)
And there wil be no CB to counter.
Just now i think more stable manabase will do the trick. We whant to get UU or UW on t2 and UUW or UWW on t3.

In prevoius version we could get second W only when we were setuping entreat, but now we whant it as soon as possible, and opponents wastelands can get us.
So i would prefer testing straight UW version for now, with lot's of basics and 5 Fetches, that can searcj for basic plains.

[jdmdave]

I'm placing an order for sideboard cards/potential sideboard cards - What do you recommend buying? I'm thinking Humility/Venser/Blue Blasts/Staticaster/K-return

[Monsinne]

I'm placing an order for sideboard cards/potential sideboard cards - What do you recommend buying? I'm thinking Humility/Venser/Blue Blasts/Staticaster/K-return

Humility is bonkers strong, though not the best synergy with Snapcaster - still grab a couple imo, it's just so strong. I think everyone should have at least some number of Staticasters in a pile somewhere. Blazing Volley & By Force might be worth having a couple around. Meddling Mage is nice. I haven't seen many people running it but I think having a few Invasive Surgery available is nice.

[KevinTrudeau]

Playing this list is some hot shit-- kind of like finding out about Silkk the Shocker back in 1995, before he blew up and all of the masses ruined a good thing. Cherish this moment, guys; it will be over soon.

I'm experimenting with a few of the variable elements of the deck just like everyone else; Clique has been a little underwhelming as a maindeck tool, so I'm starting them out in the side for Baneslayer Angels. Will also try Mentors in that slot later today.

[Minniehajj]

Got a few others:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...gue-2017-05-22

[Richard Arschmann]

Humility/Moat is a great option against Eldrazi. Against Elves/Mavericky decks like 4C Loam, they just increase our exposure to Gaddock Teeg. You really need to Swords that guy: he is a complete asshole and will stop everything we do if unanswered.

[jdmdave]

Over under on how many weeks before we get back to established decks/decks to beat?

* Established: 2 weeks
* DTB: I'll be bold and say the GP

[twndomn]

Over under on how many weeks before we get back to established decks/decks to beat?

* Established: 2 weeks
* DTB: I'll be bold and say the GP

Hate to be the crow,

http://www.thebrainstormshow.com/pod...the-atopalypse

Some Legacy content producers (I know they might read this thread), dismissed this new Miracles as tier one. I'm not big on the term tier or dtb to begin with. Just want to address their points. Old Miracles is indeed a combo-control deck. This new Miracles, it has that Dig Through Time Omni-tell play-style to it, cantrip heavy, yet it doesn't have that combo element of show and tell. Potential is where I would evaluate as.

[Minniehajj]

Hate to be the crow,

http://www.thebrainstormshow.com/pod...the-atopalypse

Some Legacy content producers (I know they might read this thread), dismissed this new Miracles as tier one. I'm not big on the term tier or dtb to begin with. Just want to address their points. Old Miracles is indeed a combo-control deck. This new Miracles, it has that Dig Through Time Omni-tell play-style to it, cantrip heavy, yet it doesn't have that combo element of show and tell. Potential is where I would evaluate as.

They only knew of Osman's original 5-0 list and have neither played against or seen in action these new lists. Wilson is often one to dismiss something immediately =P. They recorded this before this weekend's fast flurry of success.

EDIT: That being said, I'm not comfortable with counting my eggs before they hatch. We have a long way to go. We need to get past the "free win" territory and see what happens once people actively react to Terminus returning to the format.

[Whitefaces]

Ah well, we tried our best guys. Guess we should just give up then, thanks for the heads up twndomn.

Joking aside, I couldn't care less if people think this is viable or not. I've played enough Legacy to know if something is good or not, and this is good. I don't know how it'll end up, but I'm winning with it and enjoying myself while doing so.

[jdmdave]

Agreed. I think the general combo of massive resource intensive counterwar/3-for-1 terminus into slam jace/predict is the real power behind our deck. Magic is ultimately a game of CA and this deck just 2-for-1 (or better) like no ones business.

I've also noticed that I'm starting to win some games just by aggressively portenting opponents when they mulligan + scry to top. Prob. just the lucky side of variance, but it seems pretty strong.

[Minniehajj]

Legacy Challenge decklists got posted:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...nge-2017-05-22