BigEldrazi

[caprino]

I used a build with no City of Traitors since it suck when multiples of those is in my opening seven. Same with Vesuva's and Eye of Ugins so I had to cut them to two of each eventually.

Further playing, I realized that it's pointless to make the Chalice stay with just the Ancient Tombs since I couldn't have a consistent turn 1 Chalice for 1. I just retained the Trinispheres for the combo matchups and it went fine

Then the meta shifted into a more comboish state. So I adjusted the manabase and added 2 City of Traitors and added again the Chalice of the Void to make a more consistent turn 1 Chalice.

It sucks if you can't make the first play a Chalice. Then after the turn the opponent will play Delver, Deathrite or Vials for the initial threats.

What do you think i change main deck +2 city and cut 1 eye 1 urborg... In this moment mana base is 4 cloudpost 4 glimmerpost 3 vesuva 4 eldrazi temple 2 city 3 eye 4 ancient tomb 1 urborg 1 karakas...

I think in the sideboard +2 spine of ish Vs sneak and show...cut??

[darkgh0st]

After much brewing, I played this list at my LGS FNM:

12-Post Big Eldrazi			darkghost
Lands (29)	Creatures (13)	Spells (18)	Sideboard
3x Ancient Tomb 1x Cavern of Souls 4x Cloudpost 1x Dark Depths 4x Eldrazi Temple 3x Eye of Ugin 4x Glimmerpost 1x Karakas 1x Maze of Ith 4x Thespian's Stage 2x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 1x Vesuva	1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth 4x Oblivion Sower 4x Thought-Knot Seer 3x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger 1x Walking Ballista	4x Chalice of the Void 3x Expedition Map 4x Pithing Needle 3x Trinisphere 1x Batterskull 3x All Is Dust	1 Wastes 2 Thorn of Amethyst 3 Warping Wail 3 Endbringer 2 Dismember 4 Leyline of the Void

2-0 vs UW Miracles
2-0 vs Landstill
2-0 vs Sneak and Show
2-0 vs Grixis Control

[caprino]

After much brewing, I played this list at my LGS FNM:

12-Post Big Eldrazi			darkghost
Lands (29)	Creatures (13)	Spells (18)	Sideboard
3x Ancient Tomb 1x Cavern of Souls 4x Cloudpost 1x Dark Depths 4x Eldrazi Temple 3x Eye of Ugin 4x Glimmerpost 1x Karakas 1x Maze of Ith 4x Thespian's Stage 2x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 1x Vesuva	1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth 4x Oblivion Sower 4x Thought-Knot Seer 3x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger 1x Walking Ballista	4x Chalice of the Void 3x Expedition Map 4x Pithing Needle 3x Trinisphere 1x Batterskull 3x All Is Dust	1 Wastes 2 Thorn of Amethyst 3 Warping Wail 3 Endbringer 2 Dismember 4 Leyline of the Void

2-0 vs UW Miracles
2-0 vs Landstill
2-0 vs Sneak and Show
2-0 vs Grixis Control

Today i test you list online...win Vs sneak and show 2 1, miracle 2 0, eldrazi 2 1.

You play 1 wastes in side Vs moon effect?

[darkgh0st]

Today i test you list online...win Vs sneak and show 2 1, miracle 2 0, eldrazi 2 1.

You play 1 wastes in side Vs moon effect?

Yes, and vs Lands Ghost Quarter.

[JeezXrist]

What do you think i change main deck +2 city and cut 1 eye 1 urborg... In this moment mana base is 4 cloudpost 4 glimmerpost 3 vesuva 4 eldrazi temple 2 city 3 eye 4 ancient tomb 1 urborg 1 karakas...

I think in the sideboard +2 spine of ish Vs sneak and show...cut??

Yeah, Cut an Eye and an Urborg to add 2 City of Traitors

Cut the Spines and replace with Endbringer or Ensnaring Bridge. Ensnaring Bridge if you have a Karn build tho'

Also, I went 3-1-1 from yesterday's Legacy Major

My list:

3 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Oblivion Sower
1 Void Winnower
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
3 Thran Dynamo
3 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key

3 All is Dust
3 Warping Wail

1 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 City of Traitors
2 Vesuva
2 Thespian Stage
2 Eye of Ugin
1 Karakas

Sideboard:

3 Pithing Needle
3 Spatial Contortion
3 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Faerie Macabre

Matchups:

Vs. Burn. Win (2-1)
Vs. UR Delver. Win (2-0)
Vs. Dredge. Lose (1-2)
Vs. Esper Stoneblade. Win (2-0)
Vs. Infect. ID

Got beaten off by Grixis Delver at top 8

[caprino]

Yeah, Cut an Eye and an Urborg to add 2 City of Traitors

Cut the Spines and replace with Endbringer or Ensnaring Bridge. Ensnaring Bridge if you have a Karn build tho'

Also, I went 3-1-1 from yesterday's Legacy Major

My list:

3 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Oblivion Sower
1 Void Winnower
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
3 Thran Dynamo
3 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key

3 All is Dust
3 Warping Wail

1 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 City of Traitors
2 Vesuva
2 Thespian Stage
2 Eye of Ugin
1 Karakas

Sideboard:

3 Pithing Needle
3 Spatial Contortion
3 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Faerie Macabre

Matchups:

Vs. Burn. Win (2-1)
Vs. UR Delver. Win (2-0)
Vs. Dredge. Lose (1-2)
Vs. Esper Stoneblade. Win (2-0)
Vs. Infect. ID

Got beaten off by Grixis Delver at top 8

Do you like void winnower?

[JeezXrist]

Do you like void winnower?

I just tested it since I was expecting a lot of storm that day. It appeared on the games I won from the Burn and once in the UR Delver matchup. Turn 1 Chalice and turn 3 Void Winnower was sick. :D

[darkgh0st]

I just tested it since I was expecting a lot of storm that day. It appeared on the games I won from the Burn and once in the UR Delver matchup. Turn 1 Chalice and turn 3 Void Winnower was sick. :D

That is a pretty sick idea in many matchups!

[caprino]

I just tested it since I was expecting a lot of storm that day. It appeared on the games I won from the Burn and once in the UR Delver matchup. Turn 1 Chalice and turn 3 Void Winnower was sick. :D

My list i play 4 dynamo 4 grim monolit 2 basalt 3 key

What do you think?

[JeezXrist]

My list i play 4 dynamo 4 grim monolit 2 basalt 3 key

What do you think?

Considering the meta revolves around Delver, I'd consider MGB's build. I'd go for 3 Dynamo's only since it's just too much considering there's Grim Monolith and Basalt Monoliths already.

I'd also go for 4 Keys and I think it's just enough for consistency.

[itrytostorm]

Has anyone done a sideboarding guide? I feel like a lot of the time I trim 1 of everything.

[JeezXrist]

Has anyone done a sideboarding guide? I feel like a lot of the time I trim 1 of everything.

I'd like to share my input on sideboarding.

Thing is when it comes to sideboarding, I don't bother with threats that can't be helped or I don't dedicate a certain SB card that is not flexible.

For example, I have 4 Surgical Extractions. Obviously, these are boarded for Reanimator matchups. Then again, I can even board them against Maverick, Loam and/or Lands

I have also a thing for redundancy. I don't use the same sideboard for every tournament, not just a big tournament but even just a 8-man tournament in a local hobby shop.

And for my Sideboard options:

Surgical Extraction: Reanimator, Lands, Loam, Maverick, Dredge
Spatial Contortion: Mirror decks, Aggro decks, Tempo decks
Wurmcoil Engine: Mirror, Tempo, Aggro
Pithing Needle: DnT, Sneak and Show, Lands, Loam, Depths, Maverick and/or anything with Wastelands
Leyline of the Void + Helm of Obedience: Omnitell, Sneak and Show, Dredge, Reanimator
Tsabo's Web: Lands, Loam, Maverick, Depths
Mindslaver: Combo, Omnitell, Sneak and Show
Ensnaring Bridge: Omnitell, Sneak and Show, Dredge, Aggro decks
Ratchet Bomb: Combo ( Storm ) Dnt, Tempo

[cin]

Hi, Here's my Decklist on the 3 events summary
1st: 3v3 Legacy Major - July 16 2017 [4 Rounds Swiss - Cut to Top 4] - 36 Players
1st: Legacy Saturdays - August 5 2017 [3 Rounds]
1st: Legacy Tuesdays - August 8 2017 [4 Rounds]

[26 LANDS]
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
2 Vesuva
1 Karakas
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

[4 PLANESWALAKERS]
4 Karn Liberated

[11 CREATURES]
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Walking Ballista

[3 SORCERIES]
3 All is Dust

[17 ARTIFACTS]
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
2 Voltaic Key
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Trinisphere

SIDEBOARD:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Warping Wail
3 Spatial Contortion
4 Phyrexian Revoker


Report on 3v3 Legacy: http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=16206&f=LE
We have our Yearly 3v3 Legacy on a local shop and our team came first again on the second team legacy event.
the first 3v3 event of the shop was last year (October 02 2016 - http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=13645&f=LE ).
vs Grixis Delver: WIN (2-0)
vs Grixis Delver: LOSS (0-2) * Turn 1 and Turn 2 Delver
vs Omnitell: WIN (2-0)
vs Death & Taxes: WIN (2-1)

Report on Legacy Saturdays
vs Elves: WIN (2-1)
vs BIG Eldrazi: WIN (2-1)
vs BR Reanimator: ID (1-1)

Report on Legacy Tuesdays
vs MUD: WIN (2-0)
vs Miracles: WIN (2-1) * Back to Basics caught me on his Turn 3 and I didn't have any Ramp Artifacts on the field.
vs Deathshadow: WIN (2-1) * Turn 1 Delver ruined my first round.
vs Elves: WIN (2-1) * Progenitus on 2nd Game with Natural Order and All is Dust is nowhere to be found


Note: 4 Copies of Karn on the deck is really good. You can even cast it on T2 with the help of Monolith. Its a Spine of Ish Sah that stays in play for the rest of the game if the opponent doesn't do anything to stop it.

Shout out to my Teammate "Team Budget" and Mentor @JeezXrist!

[caprino]

Hi, Here's my Decklist on the 3 events summary
1st: 3v3 Legacy Major - July 16 2017 [4 Rounds Swiss - Cut to Top 4] - 36 Players
1st: Legacy Saturdays - August 5 2017 [3 Rounds]
1st: Legacy Tuesdays - August 8 2017 [4 Rounds]

[26 LANDS]
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
2 Vesuva
1 Karakas
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

[4 PLANESWALAKERS]
4 Karn Liberated

[11 CREATURES]
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Walking Ballista

[3 SORCERIES]
3 All is Dust

[17 ARTIFACTS]
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
2 Voltaic Key
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Trinisphere

SIDEBOARD:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Warping Wail
3 Spatial Contortion
4 Phyrexian Revoker


Report on 3v3 Legacy: http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=16206&f=LE
We have our Yearly 3v3 Legacy on a local shop and our team came first again on the second team legacy event.
the first 3v3 event of the shop was last year (October 02 2016 - http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=13645&f=LE ).
vs Grixis Delver: WIN (2-0)
vs Grixis Delver: LOSS (0-2) * Turn 1 and Turn 2 Delver
vs Omnitell: WIN (2-0)
vs Death & Taxes: WIN (2-1)

Report on Legacy Saturdays
vs Elves: WIN (2-1)
vs BIG Eldrazi: WIN (2-1)
vs BR Reanimator: ID (1-1)

Report on Legacy Tuesdays
vs MUD: WIN (2-0)
vs Miracles: WIN (2-1) * Back to Basics caught me on his Turn 3 and I didn't have any Ramp Artifacts on the field.
vs Deathshadow: WIN (2-1) * Turn 1 Delver ruined my first round.
vs Elves: WIN (2-1) * Progenitus on 2nd Game with Natural Order and All is Dust is nowhere to be found


Note: 4 Copies of Karn on the deck is really good. You can even cast it on T2 with the help of Monolith. Its a Spine of Ish Sah that stays in play for the rest of the game if the opponent doesn't do anything to stop it.

Shout out to my Teammate "Team Budget" and Mentor @JeezXrist!

Nice list....why no ugin spirit dragon main deck?

[cin]

Nice list....why no ugin spirit dragon main deck?

Hi Caprino,

I've been thinking of putting it in before but All is Dust's effect can fill in the board wipe's effect Ugin can give for a cost of only 7 mana given that I have 7 Eldrazi Lands in the deck means I can cast it immediately in case I needed it asap. unlike Ugin that needs to have 8 exactly Generic Mana to be casted.

[caprino]

Hi Caprino,

I've been thinking of putting it in before but All is Dust's effect can fill in the board wipe's effect Ugin can give for a cost of only 7 mana given that I have 7 Eldrazi Lands in the deck means I can cast it immediately in case I needed it asap. unlike Ugin that needs to have 8 exactly Generic Mana to be casted.

Ok thanks...karn Vs grixis elf ecc... (aggro deck) is good? 4x main deck is much...
What do you think?

[JeezXrist]

Ok thanks...karn Vs grixis elf ecc... (aggro deck) is good? 4x main deck is much...
What do you think?

In our meta, the concern is a lot sideboards Null Rod so I adjusted the main with a couple of Karn's.

Otherwise, Ugin is an alternative

[cin]

Hi,

Tourney Report from yesterday's Legacy Tourney @ a local shop, Again still using my 4 Karns build.

Decklist:
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=16508&d=302077&f=LE

Got 7th from a 21-Man Tourney

[26 LANDS]
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Glimmerpost
1 Karakas
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vesuva

[11 CREATURES]
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Walking Ballista

[3 INSTANTS and SORC.]
3 All Is Dust

[4 PLANESWALKERS]
4 Karn Liberated

[17 ARTIFACTS]
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
3 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key

SIDEBOARD
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Spatial Contortion
4 Warping Wail


FINAL STANDING 3-1-1 After SWISS
Round 1: Esper Deathblade [2-0] WIN
Game 1: No creatures at all and got locked by my Karn. [WIN]
Game 2: Boarded all my Removals. [WIN]

Round 2: Death & Taxes [1-1] DRAW
Game 1: A very long and Grindy Game and eventually casted my Emrakul to end the game [WIN]
Game 2: Wastelands really mattered. [LOSS]
Game 3: Could be able to win if given more turns. [DRAW]

Round 3: Aggro Loam [1-2] LOSS
Game 1: Game got grindy and was able to win because of the top deck sol land, and was able to cast ulamog. He has KOTR in play and active so there would be a wasteland every turn. [WIN]
Game 2: Wasteland Loam lock and got beaten by Dark Confidants. [LOSS]
Game 3: Wasteland Loam lock again on earlier turn. [LOSS]

Round 4: BR Reanimator [2-0] WIN
Game 1: Didn't have a Turn 1 Combo eventually got locked down. [WIN]
Game 2: Turn 1 Trinisphere sealed the game. [WIN]

Round 5: BG Depths [2-1] WIN
Game 1: Beaten by TKS and All is Dust saved me from Marit Lage [WIN]
Game 2: Turn 1 Sylvan Scrying then T2 Marit Lage [LOSS]
Game 3: Karn Controlled the game for earlier turns then Karakas bounced Marit Lage for the Win. [WIN]


Top 8: Elves [0-2] LOSS
Opponent on Higher seed. He is eventually on the Play.
Game 1: Could've locked him for COTV for 1 but On the Play really mattered since he was able to Combo me out on Turn 1. [LOSS]
Game 2: T1 CoTV then no incoming business spells, destroyed cotv using abrupt and eventually he hardcasted Hoof for a lethal damage. [LOSS]

[ChrisDissent]

Why not playing Needle over Revoker ? Wasteland seems to be a real problem.

[cin]

Why not playing Needle over Revoker ? Wasteland seems to be a real problem.

Revokers was my 1st choice because of some mirror matchups in our current meta. I can name Thran Dynamo and Grim Monolith in revokers and even Lions Eye Diamond and Lotus Petal if necessary. Wastelands was not my concern really since I have Grim Monolith and Thran Dynamo to ramp my mana out. But if you ask me. Yes, you can change the 4 P.Revokers to 4 P.Needles if you want.