Tourney Report @ a local shop Tonight 2017.08.15 Tuesday
I did some changes on my current build and removed the 2 Walking Ballistas and changed it to a 4th copy of All is Dust and added Ugin TSD.
Also changed the SB from 4 P.Revokers to 4P.Needles.
Got 1st with (3-0) Standing
[26 LANDS]
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Glimmerpost
1 Karakas
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vesuva
[9 CREATURES]
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
[4 INSTANTS and SORC.]
4 All Is Dust
[5 PLANESWALKERS]
4 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
[17 ARTIFACTS]
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
3 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key
SIDEBOARD
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pithing Needle
3 Spatial Contortion
4 Warping Wail
FINAL STANDING 3-0
ROUND 1: Jeskai Stoneblade [2-1] WIN
Game 1: Game took longer and after I cast Emrakul tapping my Ancient Tomb life went down to 2 then he casted Lightning Bolt. I could've win if I casted other spells first and control the board. [LOSS]
Game 2: Casted Ulamog and controlled the board by bouncing it after it attacks and casted it again. [WIN]
Game 3: Ugin's Ultimate. [WIN]
Boarding:
+2 Spatial Contortion
-2 Voltaic Key
ROUND 2: Eldrazi and Taxes [2-0] WIN
Game 1: Casted TKS on me on 2nd turn and saw my 3 TKS on the hand, eventually I casted Ulamog to end the game. [WIN]
Game 2: Casted again Ulamog when I got exactly the mana needed to cast it. [WIN]
Boarding:
+4 Warping Wail
+3 Spatial Contortion
+4 Pithing Needle
-2 Voltaic Key
-4 Chalice of the Void
-3 Trinisphere
-2 All is Dust
ROUND 3: Eldrazi Aggro [2-1] WIN
Game 1: Thought Knot Seer on T2 and casted Ulamog again to end the game. [WIN]
Game 2: T1 Mimic, T2 Endless One for 4, T3 TKS ended me swiftly. [LOSS]
Game 3: Ulamog on T4 and Karn on T5 to lock him out. [WIN]
Boarding:
+4 Pithing Needle
+3 Spatial Contortion
+4 Warping Waile
-4 Chalice of the void
-3 Trinisphere
-4 All is Dust
Team Budget
"Deadly When Hungry"
Side in and side out Vs tiers deck? (bug, ur delver, Sneak and show, elf, ant, death and taxes ecc) thanksOriginally Posted by cin
I keep seeing emrakul in these lists, and in the 4-5 events that I've played (~25 games), I've been able to cast her maybe once. I've cut it and have never really missed it, can someone explain why she's needed?
Jeff Hoogland is streaming with Tron in Legacy at the moment, looks better than the normal Cloudpost builds.
It's not better than this deck because it loses Trinisphere and Chalice.
Not to mention that it is more vulnerable to wasteland/blood moon strategies... with artifact mana you can sidestep land hate.
Hm, I dunno. I saw he beat cloudpost pretty easily on stream at least.
What exactly does that mean with regard to the overall viability of either deck vs. the metagame at large?
[26 LANDS]
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Glimmerpost
1 Karakas
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vesuva
[9 CREATURES]
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
[4 INSTANTS and SORC.]
4 All Is Dust
[5 PLANESWALKERS]
4 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
[17 ARTIFACTS]
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
3 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key
SIDEBOARD
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pithing Needle
3 Spatial Contortion
4 Warping Wail
Boarding
vs Death & Taxes
+4 Warping Wail
+3 Spatial Contortion
+4 Pithing Needle
-2 Voltaic Key
-3 Trinisphere
-4 Chalice of the Void
-1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
-1 Karn Liberated
vs Grixis Delver
+4 Warping Wail
+3 Spatial Contortion
--
-4 Karn Liberated
-2 Voltaic Key
-1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
vs Sneak Show
+4 Warping Wail
+4 Pithing Needle
--
-4 All is Dust
-4 Chalice of the Void
vs Elves
+4 Warping Wail
+3 Spatal Contortion
--
-4 Karn Liberated
-2 Voltaic Key
-1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
vs Reanimator
+4 Warping Wail
+4 Leyline of the Void
--
-1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
-2 Voltaic Key
-1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
(-2/-4) Any on Karn Liberated / All is Dust
vs Bug
+4 Pithing Needle
+4 Warping Wail
--
-1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
-2 Voltaic Key
-1 All is Dust
-1 Karn Liberated
-3 Trinisphere
Last edited by cin; 08-17-2017 at 04:00 AM.
Team Budget
"Deadly When Hungry"
There are just games that lets you win on the next turn. Once Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is played, it's almost a win for you.
Emrakul is also good against random painter decks and you can't be easily milled out
Also, with an Omnitell match, you can offset the Release the Ants kill with it.
TEAM BUDGET
Most of the lists play old Kozilek, so mill protection is already existent.
I have to admit, I didn't test a lot with Emrakul. But when I did, most of the time she was a dead card in hand...
Perhaps you could share a little bit more about the deck? It seems as if you were trying it out, even if you dismissed it so quickly?
https://twitter.com/jkyu06/status/897991852724498432
do you have list main deck?
Emrakul is optional in this deck. But having 1 in main deck is a game changer, specially when the game goes grindy, it can make you win instantly. Notice my boardings on the upper thread, I usually remove him from time to time. But for us, having him in main is good. And I usually Mull when I draw him on my first 7. It will be dependent on your playstyle too.
Last edited by cin; 08-17-2017 at 03:33 PM.
Team Budget
"Deadly When Hungry"
Sharing a picture of my Big Eldrazi.
Team Budget
"Deadly When Hungry"
Yep, I was trying it out!
Needless to say, it's definitely poorer against the Wastelands decks in the format...
Maybe Pithing Needle is an unavoidable part of our sideboards, in place of, in your case, some Portals, 1-of Trinisphere, or some Bridges.
Been playing some games with your Ugin build, and so far, it has slightly better results than all the lists been shared here. Still testing but Emrakul is uncastable most of the time, I prefer the 4th Ulamog, and go -1 Kozilek Distorsion +1 Kozilek Butcher.
Emrakul is necessary because there are some board states where they have countermagic up and just casting an Ulamog or a Kozilek leaves you dead on the board to some creatures EVEN with the cast trigger. I.e. say your opponent has a Delver of Secets, Deathrite Shaman, and a Leovold in play, you finally draw the eye of ugin and have tons of mana open... If you get Ulamog and cast it, you'll still lose to Deathrite ability if you're low on life and he counters the Ulamog itself. Emrakul has no problem with this board state - she just "wins" no matter what.
Hi guys. I have been readying your post for sometime now and have been playing with the MD.Ghost Big Eldrazi version (page 12 of this thread). My first game with this deck was against lands, and beat them 1-2 without sideboarding! Matter reshaper gave them a beating and this brings me to a question about the 4 Karn build: could it be better to swap some Karns for Matter reshaper/Endbinger/other eldrazi as to take advantage as much as possible of the Eye of Ugin/Eldrazi temple lands? I see that JeezXris tried this approach but them moved from it. A friend is selling 3 Ugins and after seen the results with the Ugin build was considering to buy them, but if they are "worst" than Karn, there is no point. Thanks!
I stopped playing Karns in this deck a while ago.
Your "finishers" need to be as high impact as possible and while Karn does some good things, in Legacy it's often just "not enough" against lots of board states. Ugin, however, is fantastic because it's a board sweeper that also acts as a win condition. It's like if Wrath of God also became a 4/4 creature or something.
I definitely highly recommend buying Ugins and playing at least 2-3 (I like the full 4) in this deck. No, you can't cast it with Eye of Ugin or Eldrazi Temple, but once it resolves it's definitely better than All is Dust. I still play All is Dust in ADDITION to 4 Ugins, though, because you need sweepers in this format.
Thanks a lot MGB. Are you still playing this list?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/703034#paper
I see you trimmed on eldrazi lands to be able to cast your Ugins more reliable with city of traitors/crystal vein. On the other hand, I see "cin" having success keeping 4 eldrazi temple and 3 eye of Ugin in his build which is heavy in planeswakers (beautiful deck picture by the way).
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