All B/R update speculation.

[Barook]

Grixis Green? Have we reached the stupidity of Standard names like Dark Jeskai yet?

[Gheizen64]

Joke didn't deliver apparently!

[Hrothgar]

In a just world, today we will see the Chalice and Probe ban..but this is not a just world obv.

[Gheizen64]

In a just world, today we will see the Chalice and Probe ban..but this is not a just world obv.

How oppressive do you find that 5% of the meta? Tell me where it touched you.

[Barook]

In a just world, today we will see the Chalice and Probe ban..but this is not a just world obv.

If they ever ban Chalice while letting Brainstorm still roam free in Legacy, I'll put a trip to Seattle to fling shit against WotC's headquarter on my to do-to list.

[taconaut]

If they ever ban Chalice while letting Brainstorm still roam free in Legacy

[sroncor1]

I rarely fuck around on this thread but can someone explain to me why in the world Chalice needs to be banned? Like it is in what 5 percent of the meta at most? And all you need to do to beat it is play green, white, blue, or red, or just play some spells in your deck that cost more than 1 mana.

I am not trying to be a dick I am just confused as to what the argument could be to ban a fringe card that disrupts the predominant shell in the format. Oh wait is that the reason?

Seth

[Barook]

My prediction for today:
No changes

Oh wait is that the reason?

Yes

You can also use EE or Ratchet Bomb to blow it up. It's a non-issue.

[Mr. Safety]

Any news of banlist changes yet? I'm impatient...lol

[Barook]

Any news of banlist changes yet? I'm impatient...lol

It should go up in around 2 hours, give or take a few minutes.

[Mr. Safety]

It should go up in around 2 hours, give or take a few minutes.

Thanks!

[Megadeus]

Not sure why everyone is so excited. It's just gonna be no changes

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Chalice would be a hilarious ban.

By no means do I advocate that, but it would be hilarious.

Also no changes, maybe a DRS ban but I doubt they'll ban anything before the end of the year.

[H]

They aren't going to ban Deathrite (or anything else, right now).

[hyperbole]Shit, I might riot if they do. Just run removal, this isn't 2005, the format is about creatures.

Just unban some nonsense card that is on the list and lets move on with our lives.[/hyperbole]

[sroncor1]

Yeah I am just really perplexed with the talk in this thread. I guess I have been away for too long. If the power level of the format is that Brainstorm and his crew are safe, then we should all be talking about unbanning at this point. DRS is a good creature, but even the talk about a one mana planeswalker is hyperbole as equating DRS to JTMS or Lilliana is sort of dumb in terms of power level. Not to mention that the answers to a one mana creature (without inherent protection) are too many to list.

Seth

[Mr. Safety]

Chalice would be a hilarious ban.

By no means do I advocate that, but it would be hilarious.

Also no changes, maybe a DRS ban but I doubt they'll ban anything before the end of the year.

They may ban/unban now to give the format longer to adjust before the pro tour. Legacy doesn't turn on a dime like Standard, and even Modern changes at a fairly slow rate unless they ban a deck (which they do frequently) and then it's a quick turnaround (general sense, I actually like where Modern is ATM.) However, I still doubt any changes will happen, considering how recent the Top ban happened. They probably think that's enough for the pro-tour. I'd love to see some cards unbanned myself.

[morgan_coke]

I'd love to see Brainstorm go away, by literally any metric it's OP, but it won't happen because WotC likes blue unreasonably more than the other colors, at least for eternal formats. I think there's a pretty decent chance Gitaxian Probe gets the axe though. Especially given that Legacy is the only format where they haven't hit it yet.

[Stevestamopz]

Holy... fuck....

[morgan_coke]

Holy... fuck....

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[Lord_Mcdonalds]

This is bullshit