4 Card Blind

[FTW]

If seguei is planning on attacking with inkmoth primarily I can play Seagate untapped for free and cast arbiter on t1, and still have UUG for the t2 short

He still wins both. It's just less easy a race then.

At some point, he'll have to attack with Inkmoth using a colored mana and leave Factory to threaten to block (with another colored mana). That lets him steal 1-2 attacks while you can't attack back, then he wins the race.

[Wrath of Pie]

If seguei is planning on attacking with inkmoth primarily I can play Seagate untapped for free and cast arbiter on t1, and still have UUG for the t2 short

You eventually have to use one of the blue mana to pay for Tabernacle.

[Reeplcheep]

You eventually have to use one of the blue mana to pay for Tabernacle.

If I pay for tabernacle and the initial arbiter cast using sea gate, his opportunity to use mana short has already passed...

But FTW is right that he can use coloured mana a few times to get ahead in the race.

[Asthereal]

I was expecting this to be the simplest round to figure out scores.

EDIT: I also forgot to follow up on possible bannings, like Assassin’s Trophy and for next round Ensnaring bridge, which seems rather stupid. Hmm..

[FTW]

The next round starts and ends soon. Can we confirm bannings?
Assassin's Trophy and those other discard spells added to banlist?

Are Ensnaring Bridge and Meekstone banned just for the Supersize round? Both seem dumb.
Otherwise the format will be Bridge vs noncreature wincon vs control vs 0-6.dec

[dte]

Unban FoW or ban empty the Warrens as well?

[FTW]

Good point. GoblinSmashmaster must have been waiting all season for this round.

FoN or any other disruption does stop it too. Maybe Meekstone and Bridge aren't that OP then.

[Wrath of Pie]

Good point. GoblinSmashmaster must have been waiting all season for this round.

FoN or any other disruption does stop it too. Maybe Meekstone and Bridge aren't that OP then.

Bridge is actually better than in a normal round, because you can't try to sneak under with 0 power creatures. Meekstone is quite a bit worse because it still lets the creatures attack.

[Asthereal]

The next round starts and ends soon. Can we confirm bannings?
Assassin's Trophy and those other discard spells added to banlist?

Are Ensnaring Bridge and Meekstone banned just for the Supersize round? Both seem dumb.
Otherwise the format will be Bridge vs noncreature wincon vs control vs 0-6.dec

The discard spells are dealt with.

Let's ban Assassin's Trophy for the rest of the season.
For next round let's ban Ensnaring Bridge, Emtpy the Warrens, and to be sure let's also drop Meekstone. It costs just one mana, and it's quite dumb with the rules for this round.

Anyone opposed?

[jhhdk]

The discard spells are dealt with.

Let's ban Assassin's Trophy for the rest of the season.
For next round let's ban Ensnaring Bridge, Emtpy the Warrens, and to be sure let's also drop Meekstone. It costs just one mana, and it's quite dumb with the rules for this round.

Anyone opposed?

Back to the drawing board then.

[Tylert]

Ah I really thought we had already started brewing and the decks were needed tomorrow at noon :)

I was probably going to submit a meekstone deck, but i'm ok with it. We have another week to brew?
Is trophy still legal?
What about chancellor of the forge for this round? (this was middle T1 deck with bridge but now it's a tier 1 toxic deck)
To be noted that meekstone is not that strong. Vigilance beats it, manlands beat it... etc...

[Asthereal]

Back to the drawing board then.

I'll be giving you guys a day extra. And myself.

Ah I really thought we had already started brewing and the decks were needed tomorrow at noon :)

I was probably going to submit a meekstone deck, but i'm ok with it. We have another week to brew?
Is trophy still legal?
What about chancellor of the forge for this round? (this was middle T1 deck with bridge but now it's a tier 1 toxic deck)
To be noted that meekstone is not that strong. Vigilance beats it, manlands beat it... etc...

I would like to ban Trophy indefinitely, as I said in my post.
Chancellor of the Forge might be too good, but OTD it loses to quite a lot.

If the discussion about bannings keeps going, we might need to take an extra week, but I'm hoping we can get this going earlier.

[jhhdk]

I'll be giving you guys a day extra. And myself.

I made a new and better deck (I hope) and I can hardly wait to post it.

EDIT: never mind it didnt work

[Serguei]

SO how many extra days ?

[Asthereal]

SO how many extra days ?

I'll wait a bit longer for replies to my suggested bannings.
Tylert might be right that Chancellor of the Forge is a bit silly here as well.

If nobody has strong opinions, I'll ban them all and open the round in 6ish hours, and put the deadline at Thursday.
If a discussion starts, I might postpone the round a full week, but I'm hoping that won't be necessary.

[dte]

I'll wait a bit longer for replies to my suggested bannings.
Tylert might be right that Chancellor of the Forge is a bit silly here as well.

If nobody has strong opinions, I'll ban them all and open the round in 6ish hours, and put the deadline at Thursday.
If a discussion starts, I might postpone the round a full week, but I'm hoping that won't be necessary.

I also think Tylert is right.
3* chancellor + fury of the horde is a stupid T1 kill.

I am for all bannings, including chacellor.

[Wrath of Pie]

I'm already trying to figure out how alternate win conditions work in the life round, pretty much figured out what I wanted to play in this round.

[jhhdk]

3* chancellor + fury of the horde is a stupid T1 kill.

Well if I had thought of that, I might not have thought it was stupid, now that I haven't I still don't, but banning seems reasonable now that it has been disclosed.

[FTW]

I also think Tylert is right.
3* chancellor + fury of the horde is a stupid T1 kill.

I am for all bannings, including chacellor.

Well, there goes my deck.

I can't disagree it's broken.
The other one I had was 2*Chancellor 2*Blazing Shoal, but Shoal is still banned.

[dte]

Well if I had thought of that, I might not have thought it was stupid, now that I haven't I still don't, but banning seems reasonable now that it has been disclosed.

Stupid was not the best choice of words. I didn't think it was so stupid, as it was my deck since a while, but I could not not disclose it once there was talk of banning and chancellor.