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    On another note... is this a joke thread or what? The deck doesn't seem all that bad but the short deck description seems like your making a joke and there is no detailed card descriptions at all. There is also a post on the Proven Forums discussing that this deck beats everything and autoloses to ATS and I'm a little in the dark here. I sense sarcasm but the deck doesn't seem all that bad...

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    As far as balance goes, it was the right call. I mean, it would have been fun for a while, but the long term health of the environment is what's important here. Legacy doesn't need another Tier 1 combo deck, especially one almost completely unaffected by the current hate. Control is essentially nonexistent and aggro-control can barely keep up with the metagame pressures it faces now; pushing this card over the top would have destroyed any semblance of balance we enjoy in this format. To say nothing of what would have happened to Extended.
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    I'm still disappointed that they didn't do a timeshifted version of Goblin Ringleader and call it Anaba Grunt. That'd obviously have pushed Thunder Bluff back into the spotlight (not to mention over-the-top in terms of viability).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Zur View Post
    As far as balance goes, it was the right call. I mean, it would have been fun for a while, but the long term health of the environment is what's important here. Legacy doesn't need another Tier 1 combo deck, especially one almost completely unaffected by the current hate. Control is essentially nonexistent and aggro-control can barely keep up with the metagame pressures it faces now; pushing this card over the top would have destroyed any semblance of balance we enjoy in this format. To say nothing of what would have happened to Extended.
    Yes, I suppose you're right. Turn 1 surprise double Didgeridoo on the play would pretty much equal GG everytime. I'm simply aggitated because I know this would have swung the notoriously bad Wizard Control match-up in Thunder Bluff's favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni
    On another note... is this a joke thread or what? The deck doesn't seem all that bad but the short deck description seems like your making a joke and there is no detailed card descriptions at all. There is also a post on the Proven Forums discussing that this deck beats everything and autoloses to ATS and I'm a little in the dark here. I sense sarcasm but the deck doesn't seem all that bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nipples View Post
    Yes, I suppose you're right. Turn 1 surprise double Didgeridoo on the play would pretty much equal GG everytime. I'm simply aggitated because I know this would have swung the notoriously bad Wizard Control match-up in Thunder Bluff's favor.
    Yeah, but who plays that deck? WotC probably figured they'd learned their lesson with Skullclamp and therefore wanted to give the format at least one out against the wrecking ball that is Minotaur Advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    Yeah, but who plays that deck?
    I think you're forgetting the current triangle make-up of the Legacy meta. Thunder Bluff beats Food Chain Aurochs, Food Chain Aurochs beats Wizard Control, and Wizard Control beats Thunder Bluff (Anaba Spirit Guide would have taken Thunder Bluff over the top). I'm not quite sure why this hasn't caught on over on the West Coast, but here in Virginia we constantly see these decks at our local tournaments.

    Also, let's not compare a mere trifle of a card such as Skullclamp to the shere brokenness that potentially could have been Anaba Spririt Guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni
    On another note... is this a joke thread or what? The deck doesn't seem all that bad but the short deck description seems like your making a joke and there is no detailed card descriptions at all. There is also a post on the Proven Forums discussing that this deck beats everything and autoloses to ATS and I'm a little in the dark here. I sense sarcasm but the deck doesn't seem all that bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nipples View Post
    ...and Wizard Control beats Thunder Bluff (Anaba Spirit Guide would have taken Thunder Bluff over the top).
    Even then, the Wizard Control matchup was certainly winnable in the hands of a competent pilot.

    But think about it. Early game acceleration that turns into late game uncounterable Minotaur Advantage? That's just insane. The meta is fragile enough as is. They obviously tested this card as a minotaur in development, and changed it solely because it was overpowered. Screw this story crap. That's just a cover.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nipples
    I'm not quite sure why this hasn't caught on over on the West Coast, but here in Virginia we constantly see these decks at our local tournaments.
    I don't know. I see these decks occasionally when I run into east coasters on MWS, but a turn 1 Didgeridoo usually spells out <System> Player Lost for me. I'm bad at playing Wizard Control, and nothing else I play can handle that beast. Even if I try to play Thunderbluff, that thing is, what, 80-90% in the mirror?

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    Also, let's not compare a mere trifle of a card such as Skullclamp to the shere brokenness that potentially could have been Anaba Spririt Guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nipples View Post
    I'm not quite sure why this hasn't caught on over on the West Coast, but here in Virginia we constantly see these decks at our local tournaments.
    Yeah, I guess we're a bit backwards in that regard. However, I will say that not having to worry about an opposing turn-one Didgerdoo is a blessing not to be underestimated!

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    Please let this joke die.

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    Please let this joke die.
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    When the hell are they going to print Merfork Sprit Guide and Hormarid Sprit Guide?
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    What joke?
    The Thunder Bluff jokes.

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    The fact that WOTC made it a non-minotaur shows that they do indeed care about this format. I thank them for their concern.
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    When the hell are they going to print Merfork Sprit Guide and Hormarid Sprit Guide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardaman View Post
    The Thunder Bluff jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinder View Post
    Even then, the Wizard Control matchup was certainly winnable in the hands of a competent pilot.
    Even in the hands of a very skilled pilot it is still a really thuff match up. The best approach to this match up is board in more Nova Pentacles and take the Staxs approach and choke them up on mana and then just resolve BIG AUNTIE in there grill piece, and throw a paper towel at them then tell them to whip themselves off.
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    Don't forget Merfolk Lackey, Matron, and Fanatic. That deck would be utterly pimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noobslayer View Post
    Don't forget Merfolk Lackey, Matron, and Fanatic. That deck would be utterly pimp.
    Merfork Confidant and Merfork Grunt would be nice, too.
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