In the last few weeks, during testing i got too many hands with no or just bad start mana and too many Chrome Mox. My decklist is just the same as bryants.
My question now is, what do you think off cutting a Mox for a Tarnished Citadell?
Nothing, C.Mox counts, Citadel doesn't.Originally Posted by Silvoz
In the last 6 games I played T.E.S, I got a hand with 3 SSG and a hand with 4 SSG, but I won't suggest to cut the SSG, cause I got too many of them on my last hands.
There will never be another me
I have been playing with 3 Chrome Mox and 1 Citadel for a while with succes, so I would advise to try.
Its not just 6 hands but about 100 hands I played these weeks! And yeah Mox counts but it always gives carddisadvantage and only 1 color, I think I'll test the 11th land. And btw stop sensless flaming.
I play only 9 lands and therefor 1 more C.Ritual, with some sucess too ;) I normaly have turn 1 combo or 1-2 lands, or both :) Until now my tournament count is 32-7-2. Last saturday i had a quite weird day with TES: I had to play against
r1 TES 2-1
r2 Balanced NQG/r 6 FoW in total kicked my ass 0-2
r3 Baseruption 2-1
r4 Whitestaxx 2-1
r5 4c Landstill 2-0
I think i have to change my deck there, 4 bad matchups and 1 mirror isnīt the best meta :(
What kind of a sideboard you would recommend to blind meta (well, I know what my team member's are going to play, but that's it)? My current list is the same as wastedlife's latest posted into this thread, but sideboard is a little different;
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Diminishing Returns
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Pyroclasm / Earthquake *which one is better, nobody seems to play Gaddock Teeg, so I don't really know whether Earthquake is better than 'clasm.
1 Tranquility
1 Shattering Spree
1 Empty the Warrens
4 Pyroblast
3 Duress *man, I can't afford Thoughtseizes.
1 Free slot
I placed two Duress' in place of the Abeyances/REB's and they have been serving me quite well. In the one free slot I have been playing second EtW, which can be boarded in sometimes when I want to go for goblin-beatdown.
How do you guys board against NQG and Decks like Countersliver?
I find nothing put out :/
Take out the Cabal Rituals and Contracts/Bargains. Those are your "open" slots.
It's somewhere at the start of the thread, actually. It's always -2 each of Ponder, Cabal Rit, and SSG for 4 Pyroblast and 2 Xantid Swarms.
The Source: Your Source for "The Source: Your Source for..." cliche.
Draw 4s help you win the counter war when you side in REBs and Pyroblast. Do not side them out.
Wow, I'm dumb. I meant the ponders and the Cabal Rits.
What about replacing Tranquility with Simplify in the sideboard ?
During my testing, facing several problematic enchants was a very, very marginal situation
Counterbalance in Thresh is kind of an issue. Ans since they have a lot of 1cc cards, Simplify would be hard to use. Hell, sometimes getting a Wish off would be a pain.
That's a good point for tranquility, and a bad one for simplify, although i think i'll go for the white tranquility (i don't remember the name) as i sometimes have a chant under mox.
White Tranquility -> Cleanfall
It does make sense - the probability of TES being able to cast Cleanfall is slightly (very slightly) higher than Tranquility.
Originally we ran Tranquility because we ran Xantid Swarm, and were more likely to have a Swarm under a Mox than a white card. Since the switch to Chant in the MD, Cleanfall is the better Tranquility effect in the sideboard.
I completely agree, however, it's almost irrelevant. Until I can find a pimp Cleanfall it will stay Tranquility.
I played TES today in a rather small tournament (~20 people) and went 1-1-3, and wasn't very satisfied with me record. My list was still the same as the last one wastedlife posted, although my sb as follows:
1 Diminishing Returns
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
4 Pyroblast
3 Duress
2 Shattering Spree (for the Stax and Dragon Stompy matches, and I couldn't get hold of any Infernal Contracts nor Cruel Bargains)
1 Tranquility
1 Pyroclasm
Maybe I'll write a brief report as I've got nothing else to do.
First match: with White Weenie.
I lost the die roll and my opponent plays Savannah Lions, I play a land and pass. Then he plays mystic morph -creature. I make 12 goblin tokens and ride for the win. On the second match my opponent can't get a third mana source to play his hate (Glowrider and Rule of Law) and drain 20 life from him with Tendrils, so 2-0 victory.
2nd: VuRkka, he's my teammate so we take a draw.
3nd: UGW-LoamIntuitionTog.
I lost the die roll and the whole game. I made 14 goblins in my first turn but my opponent has deed and the rest is a cake walk for him. I side in Pyroblasts. I drew a hand with good protection, but no business. My opponent plays Tog and we pass turns and change counters. I can't draw the needed parts to combo off and he finishes me of with a huge Tog. 0-2
4th: Non-recruiter Aluren.
I mull to 5 and my opponent to 6. He can't get another mana source and I won with tendrils after playing two Chant's to protect my combo. I side Pyroblasts again, and maybe Duresses. I mull to 6 and my opponent rapes my hand with Cabal Therapies and comboes off. In the third game I keep 7, with no lands but with a first turn duress and possible second turn EtW. He has Therapies again and finally finds Intuition which finds Aluren and goes off, and I don't draw any Pyroblasts. 1-2
5th: Ugb-Thresh with CounterTop.
The first game goes to CounterTop and he beats me off with 'goyfs I manage to draw 3 Chrome Moxen! I side in Pyroblasts and Duresses taking out couple of those blasted moxes.. My opening hand is: Undiscovered Paradise, Wish, Brainstorm, 2 SSG, 2 LED and I decide to go for the EtW on my first turn and my opponent concedes. In the last game the CounterTop does it's tricks again. 1-2
The deck was rather good overall, but the matchups weren't the easiest ones (at least I didn't get paired against Dragon Stompys ar Stax-decks). I once hoped that one of the moxes should have been something else, I could recommend trying Tarnished Citadel, although it deals high amount of pain. And the second Spree should have been Contract/Bargain, because I had several situations where I couldn't get more than 3 mana after casting Burning Wish.
Last edited by hall0n; 02-09-2008 at 01:50 PM. Reason: English isn't my native language
Good call. With 0 cards being green in the MD, Cleanfall would be perfect.
Isn't there a blue card that returns enchantments? Maybe it's an instant, therefore no good. I dunno.
I just looked it up. 5cc. Not good.
What's THE list to run nowadays? Sideboard of choice? With Dragon Stompy being everywhere, is it better to run 3-4 Shattering Spree in the board, with less Duress/Thoughtseize? Or maybe rework the board to focus on the bad matchups. Just thoughts.
There is no THE list at all, but I think Wastedlife's list is the list of choice, with maybe some small personal changes, as for me I'm trying the 11th land instead of the 4th mox. My board at the moment is:
4x Duress/ Thoughtseize (only have duress)
2x Xantid swarm
3x Shattering Spree
1x EtW
1x Pyroclasm
1x Tendrils
1x IGG
1x Tranquility/Cleanfall (Foil Tranquility looks much better)
1x DReturns
Yeah it is missing the Contract but I want to Include it again.
I didn't like the Blasts at all but i think they will go in again for maybe 3x Duress 1x Xantid, testing will show.
@hall0n: As said before by others the right number for Spree is 1 or 3 but never 2!
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