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    [Article] Unlocking Legacy - More Than Mere Survival

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    Do these decks have what it takes to survive? Doug pores over four new Survival of the Fittest builds, evaluating their potential for current play and seeing if they solve the problems that have typically plagued Survival decks. Should you play the straightforward Survival Advantage deck, planning for a consistent stream of Green men? Is the classic Full English Breakfast kill worth revisiting? What would it take to make Slivers playable in Legacy? All this, plus the hottest Survival tech cards in this week's Unlocking Legacy!

    Making fun of the Time Travel motif is pretty gay, so I'll skip that. Doug talks about some pretty cool Survival decks, but misses a couple archtypes that I'd have liked to have seen (GBwr, GBw w/o Reccuring Nightmare), but he gets props for the subtle "Lego is a lawyer" message.

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    Thumbs up all the way - I can't really find anything wrong with this one. Maybe a random mention and link of Stuart Wright's Intuition Welder Survival list in the opening paragraph could have been appropriate, but that's it.

    (I personally like the Doran Rock-style builds with maximum fatties, but since AFAIK they haven't yet posted results I can't fault Doug for not including them.)
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    Re: [Article] Unlocking Legacy - More Than Mere Survival

    Really a good article!
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    How could you have not used the phrase "sliver bullets?"

    Otherwise, I thought it was a good read about a rarely touched upon topic.

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    I really liked this. A topic I knew nothing about, and the different decklists kept me interested.
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    Two thumbs up. The sliver list was awful, however, it wasn't yours.

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    No "I will Survive?"

    I'm a fan of that deck and it's quite interesting anyway.

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    I like the idea of Slurvival, or whatever it's called. That build needs work, but it seems like an awesome idea.

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    Re: [Article] Unlocking Legacy - More Than Mere Survival

    Survival has definitely had too little coverage for what a prominent deck it's been over the years, so this is definitely an article that covers a relevant topic.

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    Oh yeah FEB is coming back ! Sign me up! ;)
    The article was really really nice. One of the nicest Unlocking Legacy, I dare say.
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    FEB Top8ed at a Tourney I was in on Saturday.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    Nice article, good reading for someone who had little experience with Survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Voyeur View Post
    How could you have not used the phrase "sliver bullets?"

    Otherwise, I thought it was a good read about a rarely touched upon topic.
    The potential for puns in this article was critically high. I had to consciously limit myself.

    Nihil Credo, I did an extensive article on Stu's Welder Survival list a couple months ago. If you're interested in it, the article is worth a read.

    I tried to focus on a few decks that put up results recently, so unfortunately, I missed some classic stuff that hasn't won in the near past. I also focused on how new cards and strategies have changed up Survival, possibly enabling it where previous versions would have slipped.

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    Nice article, Survival deserves some credit...

    BTW, I don't know where to post it, if someone is interested here you have the Valencia Duel for Duals finals where you can see the mentioned list on action:

    Game 1
    Game 2: Part 1, Part 2.

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    Nice Article.

    Welder Survival or GWBR List would have also been cool. I like how you said that new sets bring creatures to the toolbox. It's one of the reasons survival is so fun, it's always changing.

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    I just want to say that "hay guise, im a 9/9 lol." is classic.

    Also, for the Sliver list, no Toxin Sliver? When I played Slivers I always disliked the fact that is was a royal pain in the ass to get around Tarmogoyf in the absence of a Winged Sliver, since it could profitable block and kill almost anything you had. Toxin Sliver in combination with Virulent Sliver turns combat into a lose-lose situation for the opponent 100% of the time, I found. Then again, I wasn't playing a deck with Survival in it, so...

    Didn't Tacosnape develop a madness/Survival hybrid? Was that any good? Might have been interesting to see some discussion of a more non-traditional Survival deck.

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    Wow. Glad i took a lot at this thread. Didnt even know my deck was in an article. I think i'm too excited at that prospect alone to decide if i realy like what was said about it or not (leaning towards "not" mostly because of the dis at Legion and Plated and the badly reasoned love for Virulent sliver).

    Gotta go back an read the rest of the article before i comment on it as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godryk View Post

    Game 1
    Game 2: Part 1, Part 2.
    I just watched that entire match. It's amazing how the tides turned in favor of the Survival player. That Thresh guy had answers to EVERYTHING game 1, but the lone Goose wasn't enough to seal the deal quick enough before Survival stabalized. I was particularly fond of the double Stifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoddyVR View Post
    (leaning towards "not" mostly because of the dis at Legion and Plated and the badly reasoned love for Virulent sliver).
    This was the thing that stood out to me the most. You seriously think Virulent Sliver is better than Plated? :RAGE: lern2sliver

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    What is the black creature that the Survival guy resolves at 7:36? Also, is his list published?

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    Ohhhh is that what he was doing?! I thought it was a Witness, but then wondered why he was sacing the BoP then putting the "creature" back to his hand. Then I thought it was Therapy, but that didn't add up either. That clears up a lot.
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