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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathwingZERO View Post
    I agree. There's a number of people in both communities that still don't have them. I know of a few friends myself that haven't picked them up yet, just because $160-200 on a deckset of not dual lands is ridiculous.

    The $25 marker will probably be close to where I expect it to stay at. It'll probably dip down to $20 and maybe even the higher teens when the scare sets in that "everyone else is selling off, so I better too before they tank", but they'll recoup after that.
    I just hope you're right and the price really comes down that much.
    Right now I only have a foil playset which cost me a total of $72 at the time. Back then I hastily got rid of all my non-foil copies thinking that Tarmogoyf can only decrease in value but I was so wrong and the price more than doubled afterwards!
    The foil Tarmogoyfs are great for my Threshold deck with all those other foil cards but the annoying thing is that they sort of stick out in most of my other decks which contain almost non-foils only.
    So in conclusion I would really appreciate a lower price-level which would allow me to get a playset of non-foil versions of the card for a reasonable amount of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slyfer View Post
    I also agree that T2 is really a crapload... mutavault, blossom, thoughtseize.... tons of dollars wasted.... They are saying it's recession in USA (and Europe) but is this valid for Magic players?? LOL
    I don't understand why Ravnica duals are now 5 euro each for example... I think they will be staples for next extended year, and one deck used all of them (the aggro with tribal flames you know).
    Good analysis.

    It all comes down to interest shown in different formats. Looking at most of Magic forums, that would assume that T2 & T3 account for 2/3 of all formats. T1 1.5 & 1.x for 1/3.

    Therefore, when a newly released card is as played as Goyf, price obviously goes to the roof! But once its leaving T2, life gets more difficult...

    It costs quite a bit to stay on top in standard, so guys have to sell when sets rotate to ease the cost. Dollars are not wasted if you rotate properly

    As for Ravnica duals, they only interest 1.x players in a format with no fetch. small market out there...

    Pithing needle was like Goyf before. 1 mana artefact, can be played in any deck, needed to be played at least in the board and the value went through the roof. Then it got edited again increasing availability, and the hype was gone. It's less than 10$ now.

    Since WotC policy is to make green (critters) better and stronger, Goyf will get competition too. And imagine if they release a symmetric Tormods...

    Last point: 25$ = 15 EUR. I paid 12 for 2 pints yesterday. A set of Goyf still costs far less than a night out in Dublin ;-) If the rate was going up for Dollar, you wouldn't see us Europeans go mad at anything moving on Ebay

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    Pithing needle was like Goyf before. 1 mana artefact, can be played in any deck, needed to be played at least in the board and the value went through the roof. Then it got edited again increasing availability, and the hype was gone. It's less than 10$ now.
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    Not on the planet where the rest of us live.
    x2 Show me where I can get Needles for less than 10 dollars. Plus Needle is just an very efficient answer/Sb card. Goyf is a fucking strategy/win condition
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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    Has anyone wondered about what drives up prices as much as they are now? I think a large part of it is due to StarCityGames. They set their price at the highest that they think people will actually pay for them, other sites follow suit, and prices are driven way up. I think the whole internet Magic card store trend has really been pretty bad for the health of the game, but I'm probably in the minority in thinking that.

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    Certainly, online stores have something to do with the prices. I know friends who sold alot to online shop because they were giving crazy. Guess what? They emptied the local shops and sold them online for profit. Now, local shop has no more or little of bitterblossom/mutavault left. And alot of people dont want to deal online... Availability is also an issue.

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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    Certainly, online stores have something to do with the prices. I know friends who sold alot to online shop because they were giving crazy. Guess what? They emptied the local shops and sold them online for profit. Now, local shop has no more or little of bitterblossom/mutavault left. And alot of people dont want to deal online... Availability is also an issue.
    Which is the opposite of what I remember in the old days. The local shops would charge the highest listed price they could find (for instance, a bent Mox Pearl for the price of a NM one, or an played Italian The Abyss for the price of a mint English one), but if you were online and were aware of Usenet, you could get them for well below the price that the local shops were asking.

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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    I totally agree with Lego. If you notice, a lot of newer players are using Starcity as a basis of pricing as compared to a few years ago when people used Scrye and Inquest as a guide. Someone wanted to do a trade with me for a MutaVault and a couple of other cards and he used Starcity as his basis for prices. I didn't mind since he used the same on what I was trading to him, but it goes to show.

    I typically use Ebay as a guide since that's what I am going to use to ditch them when I don't want them anymore and they don't trade out of the folder, but that's me.

    I think if Standard and Block caused the most effect on prices we'd have a hell of a time buying Scion of Oona's. Anyway, Grindstone is a good indicator if anything.

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    Extended is becoming more like T2 rotation wise so there is only going to be a gradual 5-10 USD drop.

    If something better comes along to pwn that card then it would drop down to the level it was over a year ago after the discovery.

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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by mercenarybdu View Post
    If something better comes along to pwn that card then it would drop down to the level it was over a year ago after the discovery.
    O Christ i hope they never make that mistake again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSCK View Post
    I think they'll definitely fluctuate with the Extended season considering near every viable deck in Extended will want a playset, look for prices at 30 before the season and during spike them up to 35-37.50
    Well, just for the laugh, I've put some tarmo deals on watch in ebay.

    1 set finished at 130$

    another at 96$ with 100% evaluation.

    And the card is not rotated yet from standard.

    Please forget about 200$ for a set.

    100$ will be the new target

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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    they go for like 25 each on ebay. Some people are still bidding high on them, but you can find sets for 90-95 bucks. Perfect time for me to pick up my set

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    I totally agree with Lego. If you notice, a lot of newer players are using Starcity as a basis of pricing as compared to a few years ago when people used Scrye and Inquest as a guide. Someone wanted to do a trade with me for a MutaVault and a couple of other cards and he used Starcity as his basis for prices. I didn't mind since he used the same on what I was trading to him, but it goes to show.

    I typically use Ebay as a guide since that's what I am going to use to ditch them when I don't want them anymore and they don't trade out of the folder, but that's me.

    I think if Standard and Block caused the most effect on prices we'd have a hell of a time buying Scion of Oona's. Anyway, Grindstone is a good indicator if anything.
    Good. Scrye prices are an embarrassment. Last I checked (6 mo. ago) Jitte was like $5, Sea Drake was $1, and Goyf was $15.00. Unusable.

    ebay constantly fluctuates, which means they have the most accurate prices but also makes them a pain to look up.
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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    http://www.magictraders.com/pricelists/

    Pretty accurate, except for the lesser-traded stuff, where there's less info to base it on.


    Tarmogoyf's been averaging about 28 in the past week, apparently.
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    Re: [Tarmogoyf] Prices, redux

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    http://www.magictraders.com/pricelists/

    Pretty accurate, except for the lesser-traded stuff, where there's less info to base it on.


    Tarmogoyf's been averaging about 28 in the past week, apparently.
    Magic Traders is what I use for prices. If only they had a Windows Mobile-compatible website. I tend to use Magic Traders on the fly from my phone at prereleases and such. It's a hassle to use the webpage on a small phone screen - thankfully I got a nice Motorla Q9C, so it doesn't totally suck.

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