Do you take Adepts' posts more seriously?

[Tenant_Tron]

PR claims we need "proof" for what is in my opinion a pretty obvious conclusion, so please answer the poll.

[Whit3 Ghost]

That was def not there when I posted.

EEEEEEDIT

[Tenant_Tron]

Yeah the poll is up now guys, it takes about 30 seconds to set it up after submitting a new thread.

[Whit3 Ghost]

I trust adepts in certain scenarios. I trust Bryant on the subject of TES and Dave on the subject of ITF and such. However, if an adept was trashing on Doomsday or Fetch Tendrils, I might be more inclined to take Emidln's word over theirs. I also happen to know most of the adepts personally so that might affect my bias more than them actually being adepts. As for the state of the format, because I know for a fact that adepts play in a ton of tournaments, I'd like to think that they have a handle on what's going on.

Edit- I also take the results of people who have done well in the format more seriously, adept or not.

[Nightmare]

I have difinitive proof that my opinion is not taken seriously:

People still play Dreadstill.

[Peter_Rotten]

People still play Dreadstill.

Holy shit! We have totally forgot about this. That deck is reviled by the Adepts. I think that I might be the only non-member to take it seriously! No, they really hate that deck.

I voted sometimes for essentially the reasons WhiteGhost cited. Which, I think, isn't really useful for the poll. It is essentially a qualified "no." Oops. My vote should have been a "no" but I'm not going to mess with it to try to preserve whatever intergrity this poll has.

[Tenant_Tron]

I included "sometimes" because in the other thread I heard a few express that sometimes if time is a concern or it is a certain deck/subject they listen to people in different ways. I dont think it really damages the poll unless it makes people unwilling to say "yes" or "no" out of indecisiveness, but whatever.

T.T

[Deep6er]

Generally, I don't care. I read everything. Nobody is on my ignore list. I weigh each as I read them.

However, as I read and analyze, there are people that I just do not trust. For example, I will never trust Landstill_101 about anything relating to It's the Fear. Actually, probably most Magic Theory/Strategy in general.

However, the same applies to Jack Elgin. I fucking hate that guy. I refuse to talk Magic Theory/Strategy with him and will pointedly ignore him when he tries.

The list goes on, but I always read and judge by the merits of the post. I don't give a damn if you just won a tournament with it, I will tell you that I still don't agree with cards in your deck.

For example, Tosh (who Top 2'd the Vancouver tournament) played a build of It's the Fear that I was vehemently against. I told him so. I did congratulate him on his success, but I let him know that there were cards in his deck that I didn't think were optimal (Wasteland comes to mind).

There. See. People do actually read the posts of members and take them seriously. People also ignore Adepts.

[Jaiminho]

I trust adepts in certain scenarios. I trust Bryant on the subject of TES and Dave on the subject of ITF and such. However, if an adept was trashing on Doomsday or Fetch Tendrils, I might be more inclined to take Emidln's word over theirs.

For each deck, there is a handful of people that can be truted on their words much more than the rest, but it doesn't mean that they aren't saying a bunch of crap on the rest of the threads. I usually will take Emidln's word over any adept on FT because barely only a few people give a crap about the deck.

Summarizing, I try to know who are the "authorities" of each decks I'm interested in.

[Getsickanddie]

This poll seems poorly constructed. For example, couldn't often and rarely be construed as being the same as sometimes? Every vote cast could be a sometimes vote.

[Nihil Credo]

Holy shit! We have totally forgot about this. That deck is reviled by the Adepts. I think that I might be the only non-member to take it seriously! No, they really hate that deck.

Count me for two. Which reminds me, I still have to post that Dreadstill apologia in the Q&A forum. It's been sitting half-written in a .txt file on my desktop for days now, the forum will probably get abolished before I finish it.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

However, the same applies to Jack Elgin. I fucking hate that guy. I refuse to talk Magic Theory/Strategy with him and will pointedly ignore him when he tries.

My good friend David here raises a very excellent point with his ironically sardonic comment. Some people, such as myself, are simply worth listening to more than others, not because we're Adepts, but because of the qualities that led to us being selected as Adepts. This doesn't prove anything about the Adept system one way or another; no matter how flawed the selection process, if there's even a nominal effort to select the best posters/strategists, a random Adept should be more worthwhile to listen to than a random regular user.

It's confusing cause and effect. Like, the great city of Boston and the cream pie for which it's named.

[raharu]

lolJack.

I voted sometimes because, well, it's a matter of who's speaking. If an adept is in a thread I'll generally be more inclined to listen to their advice, but there are other users that I'll immediately be more inclined to listen to (DIF, Adan, Volt, monkey, Whit3 Ghost, edlmin in regards to combo, Isamaru, etc.), even over a number of the adepts. It's simply a matter of who is talking, but again, if you were to grab a random user and an Adept at random, I would prolly listen to the Adept over the normal user. To me, being an Adept is an indicator of general brightness in the area of Magic Theory, but having that status doesn't really mean it's true, it's just more likely. Indicators do occasionally fail.

[Deep6er]

My good friend David here raises a very excellent point with his ironically sardonic comment. Some people, such as myself, are simply worth listening to more than others, not because we're Adepts, but because of the qualities that led to us being selected as Adepts. This doesn't prove anything about the Adept system one way or another; no matter how flawed the selection process, if there's even a nominal effort to select the best posters/strategists, a random Adept should be more worthwhile to listen to than a random regular user.

It's confusing cause and effect. Like, the great city of Boston and the cream pie for which it's named.

Have you died yet? That resurrection cookie is close to getting stale. You don't want stale resurrection cookies. So, hurry it up before it's stale. Seriously, get with the dying.

[Wallace]

I don't see how this is going to prove anything?

[Pinder]

Nope. I read every post in every thread, for the most part. And when I'm skimming, I skim everything, not just regular members.

I mostly pay more attention to the well-known posters on the site, be they Adept or not, because they've demonstrated a habit of consistently good posts. Some (but not necessarily an exhaustive list of) members which are not Adepts, but whom I generally pay attention to:

• Ebinsugewa
• emidln
• scrumdogg (maybe because he still owes me a beer, though)
• Volt
• AngryTroll
• Whit3_Ghost
• A Legend
• etc., etc., you get the idea.

[Deep6er]

HEY! WHAT THE HELL!

I should totally be on that list.


Also, EBINSUGEWA!!!

That name is so fucking awesome.

EDIT: Oh, I get it, those are NON - Adepts you listen to. Fair enough. Still not retracting my statement. I should be on that list regardless. :)

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

HEY! WHAT THE HELL!

I should totally be on that list.


Also, EBINSUGEWA!!!

That name is so fucking awesome.

EDIT: Oh, I get it, those are NON - Adepts you listen to. Fair enough. Still not retracting my statement. I should be on that list regardless. :)

Some (but not necessarily an exhaustive list of) members which are not Adepts, but whom I generally pay attention to:

Chillax, friend-David.

Also, I'm on a diet. But I'm told that baking cookies and other pastries is a sign of deep and binding friendship for those you love. Thank you, friend!

Although that should be whom are not Adepts, as it's not the list's status as a Legacy Adept or not that is in question.

[Deep6er]

... God. I fucking hate you. How about this, you die and then I'll laugh and point at you. Then, I'll find some necrophiliac to sodomize you when you're dead. How about that? Goddamn it. I fucking hate you so goddamn much.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

I'm not sure if follow the point of your sadonicism, good chum.