[Brainstorming] Ad Nauseam

[Shugyosha]

With the list of the initial post I'm getting first to third turn kills on a very regular basis. You usually drop to about 10 life, only lower if you happen to reveal an Ad Nauseam. Tendrils then hits for 20-22 minimum and went as high as 38. Often I even had a Duress a round before I started.

Apart from play errors that could have been avoided with more practice I fizzles only once because I killed myself with Ad Nauseam while not finding a single tutor for Tendrils in 25-30 cards.

The deck is also very flexible when it comes to mulligans.

Even without further testing against blue/black decks the card's power level is way to high for Legacy. I'm not whining btw, just stating how I see it.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

This card is stoopid good. I went to try to break it, then I just realized, you can get five mana then cast it. Done.

[rufus]

Apart from play errors that could have been avoided with more practice I fizzles only once because I killed myself with Ad Nauseam while not finding a single tutor for Tendrils in 25-30 cards.

There are 8 tutors and 2 tendrils. Assuming you burned one of those initially, that's still 9 cards any one of which should work, so the odds of failing to find one in 20 cards are about 1 in 1600.

[undone]

There are 8 tutors and 2 tendrils. Assuming you burned one of those initially, that's still 9 cards any one of which should work, so the odds of failing to find one in 20 cards are about 1 in 1600.

So a little more frequent then fizzling with desire

Ways to break Drawing at will

Get 3BB. There, done.

Side note, this allows you to play force because you can stop midresolution and mini tendrils then just cast a 2nd one.

This card reads

3BB
Instant (SERIOUSLY WTF SHOUlD AT LEAST BE SORC!!)
If this card resolves, win the game.

Guess what there are a list of cards stronger then this, and they are the top 20-40 best cards in magic, this WILL take a spot there.

[Jaynel]

Just to clarify, you cannot play any spells until Ad Nauseum has resolved (you must choose to stop paying life and drawing cards before playing anything else). So you can't play Angel's Grace then keep on drawing.

[undone]

Who cares.

1) 50 cards that dont hurt you in a dec (lands)

or

2) Average CC of 1.5-2 + combo Heres an example of possible flips.

4 1/0 CC accel
1 win con 2 or 4 mana
1 land
1 Adnausium

13 life lost, accel into tendrils win.

[Poesjuh]

The card truly is insane, I got myself 4 already for €10,- total, that's about $14/$15,- ^^

[Peter_Rotten]

The card truly is insane, I got myself 4 already for €10,- total, that's about $14/$15,- ^^

Then we know that it is officially printed as we have it listed?

Anyway, I think I'll hold off on buying any. I still remember my 8 Mind's Desires .

I'm thinking of overhauling the posted deck list by adding red and removing the Culling/Critters/Diabolic. Also, Pact of Negation is stupid-stupid in this deck. Run it.

[Poesjuh]

I don't know. Msn buddy has some guy in Australia where he can buy for very cheap, so I said that if the card is being printed as it is know, I want 4 :P

I know what you mean though, had it a few times. Thought a card was going to sell high, but it didn't :P

[Pinder]

It seems like we finally got our "Blackt or Fiction". Fuck you, Moonlight Bargain.

[Sims]

3BB
Instant ( SERIOUSLY WTF SHOUlD AT LEAST BE SORC!! )
If this card resolves, win the game.

Not really. I don't know what reasoning they have for this card, if printed as was posted, to be an Instant... But I'm kind of glad, personally. As an Instant, this card cannot be Burning Wished for, and can easily be played in other black based control/board control decks and not just tendrils and storm combo.

[rufus]

Not really. I don't know what reasoning they have for this card, if printed as was posted, to be an Instant.

It could be Necrologia 2.0 which would make it a whole lot less potent.

[Frenger]

Just to clarify, you cannot play any spells until Ad Nauseum has resolved (you must choose to stop paying life and drawing cards before playing anything else). So you can't play Angel's Grace then keep on drawing.

1. Cast angel's grace (it says until EOT)
2. Cast ad nauseam
3. ???
4. Win

[MTG Guru]

1. Cast angel's grace (it says until EOT)
2. Cast ad nauseam
3. ???
4. Win

I wouldn't play a two card combo when you could be playing a one card combo. Ad Nauseum is pretty nuts by itself.

[The_Red_Panda]

1. Cast ad nauseam
2. ???
3. Profit

Fix'd. In this case, the ??? is actually winning the entire tournament, because your deck includes cheese like Ad Nauseum. Here's hoping for a pre-release banning for all formats besides vintage, where it will probably be restricted.


Hell, I'd consider putting this in Non-Combo decks, just because it could provide so much card advantage. It's manacost becomes a little restrictive at that point, but still, 5 mana for draw 6 and lose 4 life? Not bad.

[undone]

1) Cast As Nauseum
2) Stuff happens.
3) Collect first place

4) Go get some beers.

[m03]

Here's hoping for a pre-release banning for all formats besides vintage, where it will probably be restricted.

It wont be restricted in Vintage. There are too many other high-CC cards that will win you the game faster than this that would have to be cut in order to make it work. It's got "Mana Drain me" written all over it.

In Legacy, I'm looking forward to both building a deck around it, as well as countering it and getting a 3-for-1.

[Peter_Rotten]

It wont be restricted in Vintage. There are too many other high-CC cards that will win you the game faster than this that would have to be cut in order to make it work. It's got "Mana Drain me" written all over it.

Couldn't you say the same thing for Mind's Desire?

[Bryant Cook]

I love wizards for making TES more and more broken. <3

[Sims]

Couldn't you say the same thing for Mind's
Desire?

Difference is when they Drain a Desire, they'll never get to their next turn to actually get the mana, as the Storm copies from Desire will likely allow the game to be marked up to the Desire player as a W.