[Deck] Death Baron's panty raid (Zombie Suicide Black)

[technogeek5000]

Death Baron 1bb
Creature - Zombie Wizard Rare
Other Zombie creatures and Skeleton creatures you control get +1/+1 and have deathtouch.
2/2


Death baron is buroken. Techno needs a decklist.
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Here decklist is.


4 Death Baron
4 Lord of the undead
4 Carnophage
4 Sarcomancy
3 Undead warchief
3 Withered Wretch
2 Gempalm poluter
4 Dark ritual
4 Duress
4 Thoughtseize
4 snuff out
15 swamp
3 Unholy grotto
2 Urborg, Tomb of yawgmoth

Sideboard:
Some combination of jailor, 1 more wretch, plauge, some combo hate, and other cards.



So this deck looks extremely solid in my eyes. The 8 1cc zombies are good with lord and amazing with Baron. With a unholy grotto in play you have a good time recovering from mass removal. The deck still has a good control running 8 discard spells and 4 creature kill that can be easily cast at the same time as zombies. Unholy grotto + polluter is a nice synergy. The deck has maindeck grave hate which helps against aggro loam, ichorid, thresh, and several other decks. 3 Undead warchief is fine as with four you going to see multiples stuck in your hand occasionally. The sideboard still has all the great tools from normal sui plus cards that have synergy with the lords. The deck can handle goblins with the 8 1cc guys and death baron. Thresh is hurt by wretch and other cards from the board. Grotto helps against landstill and the discard spells hurt combo.

[Isamaru]

The first card that came to my mind when I saw Death Baron was actually Augur of Skulls. I like it a lot better than Discard1s 5x-8. It's a 2/2 Deathtouch Regenerator in this deck when its not acting like a sort of Hymn to Tourach.

I think you should play Chrome Mox over Dark Ritual, but thats a personal preference. Include some cards in the sideboard that can counteract Chalice at 1.

[Illissius]

Wouldn't this deck like some Mutavaults? 4/3 manland with a Warchief is pretty hot.

I think I'd rather play Stromgald Crusader than Withered Wretch.

[thefreakaccident]

Wouldn't this deck like some Mutavaults? 4/3 manland with a Warchief is pretty hot.

That would be hawt!

[MTG Guru]

No Aether Vial?

Cool deck concept BTW, I like it.

EDIT: What exactly is Death's Baron's casting cost?

[DeathwingZERO]

So wait, no love for Korlash? He IS a zombie, and 4 of him in the deck make for AWESOME land acceleration tricks (and of course, make him bigger). 2BB is really not hard to come by, and he makes for an insane finisher on his own (he can regenerate).

I'd actually say since Deathtouch itself will kill most creatures, a good start would be something like:

-1 Duress
-1 Thoughtseize
-2 Snuff Out

+4 Korlash

Getting to 4 mana might require tweaking the deck a little bit, but he's honestly a more solid finisher with Deathtouch stacked on him than anything else in here, and turn 2 can be powered out by Dark Ritual, then you can discard multiples to stabilize the manabase for other spells to follow.

[Peter_Rotten]

Three words.

Grave
Born
Muse

The only Zombie I ever feared.

Other cool Zombies could include:

Barrow Ghoul
Eastern Paladin (FU Goyf)
Entrails Feeder (FU Ichorid)
Phage (because she's a Zombie and I didn't know it)
Shepard of Rot (cause his name kicks more ass than a 6/7 Goyf)

[Zork]

I had been running a vial zombies deck and found that you really want a nice curve and maximum numbers of lords. The deck wins aggro matchups on the back of the fact that your zombies get fuggin huge and vial makes combat math that much harder.

Korlash is a beating, while entrails feeder is not. Also, one of the best one drop zombies is actually carrion feeder, who I found to be better than Sarcomancy. He helps against targetted removal and absolutely beats up on Ichorid better than Mogg Fanatic ever could. I also tested Grangerous Zombies with Snow-Covered Swamps, but it was inconclusive.

[The_Red_Panda]

Urbog looks like ass. I could see it fixing your opponent's manabase more often than it fixed yours.

Still, this looks hawt. I suddenly have a craving for non-goblins tribal decks.

[raharu]

I had been running a vial zombies deck and found that you really want a nice curve and maximum numbers of lords. The deck wins aggro matchups on the back of the fact that your zombies get fuggin huge and vial makes combat math that much harder.

Korlash is a beating, while entrails feeder is not. Also, one of the best one drop zombies is actually carrion feeder, who I found to be better than Sarcomancy. He helps against targetted removal and absolutely beats up on Ichorid better than Mogg Fanatic ever could. I also tested Grangerous Zombies with Snow-Covered Swamps, but it was inconclusive.

Could we have this vial Zombies list? I've been working on a list, but the curve is positively fucked. Really, Zombies has historically had a terrible mana curve, but I'd more than love to see how you've fixed it.

@ P_R: Graveborn Muse is too much life loss. Grave Defiler is better for the CA-on-a-stick slot.

Sidenote: WTF WHY IS NO-ONE PLAYING COFFIN QUEEN?

[Captain_Morgan]

You could splash red for more cards like Shivan Zombie, Terminate, and Tauren Mauler. If you rotate into a more controllerish style, perhaps use things like Tangled Wire and allow Mauler to grow.

[DeathwingZERO]

Don't forget if you want to go a full on suicidal mode, you can always drop down Shepherd of Rot. Nothing says "kill me" than a creature that pings everyone for 5-10 a turn.

[Pinder]

Three words.

Grave
Born
Muse

The only Zombie I ever feared.

This is true. My team and I are messing with Death Baron in our team forum, and a Muse that isn't dealt with just flatout buries your opponent in card advantage. Of course, our list is a little less sui than yours, so maybe Muse is a bit too slow for you.

[Zork]

This was the last list I was testing:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
19 [CS] Snow-Covered Swamp
3 [ON] Unholy Grotto

// Creatures
3 [PRE] Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
4 [EX] Carnophage
4 [SC] Undead Warchief
4 [PS] Lord of the Undead
4 [FNM] Carrion Feeder
3 [IA] Gangrenous Zombies
2 [FNM] Withered Wretch
3 [CS] Stromgald Crusader

// Spells
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
3 [FNM] Cabal Therapy
4 [DS] AEther Vial

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [FUT] Yixlid Jailer
SB: 2 [FNM] Withered Wretch
SB: 4 [7E] Eastern Paladin
SB: 3 [A] Zombie Master
SB: 2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte

What I liked:
- The curve out to 4
- The lords
- Korlash is amazingly big

What I didn't like:
- The 2cc slot is weaker than the rest
- Disruption package is not the best
- The sideboard is not developed
- Gangrenous zombies should be something else (Death Baron fixes this)

[MTG Guru]

I'd definitely consider Stillmoon Cavalier. Deathtouch and first strike seems quite useful, especially when the creature is immune to StP.

[johanessen]

¿No slot for Grave Defiler?

And why Eastern Paladin? Plaguebearer > all

[Mirrislegend]

Mutavault + Warchief OR Baron = 4 power manland and noone's playing it? Really? Also, where are the Smothers? Instant-speed, hits-every-relevant-creature removal, I'll take 4!

EDIT:
-Whether you're going sui or not, I think the 8x 1cc 2/2 zombies is the way to go (as opposed to Zork's list)
-Cabal Therapy (courtesy of Zork's list) is a sharp idea. Unholy Grotto rocks this shiz.

[Zinch]

Mutavault + Warchief OR Baron = 4 power manland and noone's playing it? Really?

The way is written I think that mutavault will only be a 3/3 with a baron in play... Is a single ability like the invasion familiars

[Zork]

Actually, Mutavault would be amazingly strong in this deck. The manabase could probably support this if you go:

-1 Grotto
-4 Swamp
+3 Mutavault
+2 Urborg

@Plaguebearer: I tried him, and often he ended up being way too expensive and not very big. Your problem threats are usually green anyways. Honestly, though, he was only in the board for testing purposes, and I never really got to use him.

@ Graveborn Muse: I dropped him twice during play, and he usually got used for one upkeep and then sacrificed to keep myself from dying. I was trying out running Nantuko husk at the time, though, so the current list could probably not support him.

[Captain_Morgan]

Patriarch's Bidding or Living Death could act as a reset button if you include more creature sacrifice like an additional Therapy. It would allow you to overextend some what into a Pernicious Deed or Wrath as well.