Jak's EDH Deck (first try)

[Jak]

I have been hearing about EDH all over and it sounds and looks fun. It's way cheaper than trying tu build a cube so I was in. I have more BWG cards than others so playing a BWG deck was the logical choice since I dont have a ton of cash to throw around. Here is what I have come up with by searching and looking at other decks and a little stuff of my own.

General
1 Teneb

Lands
1 Nantuko Monastery
1 Treetop Village
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Maze of Ith
3 On Color Duals
3 On Color Rav Duals
3 On Color Painlands
5 Fetches
3 On Color Karoo Lands
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Vesuva
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Volrath's Stronghold
3 Forest
2 Swamp
2 Plains -

Accel
1 Sol Ring
1 Nature's Lore
1 Farseek
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Elves of Deep Shadow
1 Sakura Tribe Elder
1 Wall of Roots

Creatures
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Eternal Witness
1 Doran
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Shriemaw
1 Tombstalker
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Mystic Enforcer
1 Spiritmonger
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Mesmeric Fiend
1 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Genesis
1 Gigapede
1 Withering Wretch
1 Exalted Angel
1 Divinity of Pride

Planeswalkers
1 Garuuk
1 Elspeth

Draw/Tutors
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Crop Rotation
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Necropotence
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Scroll Rack

Removal/Board Control
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Condemn
1 Vindicate
1 Unmake
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Krosan Grip
1 Parralax Wave
1 Overwhelming Forces

Other Control
1 Duress
1 Thoughtseize
1 Hymn to Tourach

Equipment/Aura
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Umezawa's Jitte

Cool Stuff
1 Call of the Herd
1 Animate Dead
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Mirari's Wake
1 Decree of Justice
1 Regrowth
1 Life from the Loam
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Decree of Justice
1 Profane Command

Even 100, if I counted right. I really want this to be a nice Rock deck that can accel into a few fatties while kind of disrupting their hand and controlling the board. Use powerful tutors to get broken stuff and win. I am really unfamiliar with the format so I wasn't sure if combo was played. Just in case, I have 5 discard spells :(. Pretty lack luster and I might just cut it but I have them in there to add on to it later. So any thoughts or ideas with the deck or you can help me a bit with the kinds of decks I'll see. Thanks.

[Sek'Kuar]

Try Teneb, The Harvester if you want BGW. Take it from me, Teneb's ability is far more useful than Doran's. Also, Teneb tends to draw more hate away from your other dudes.

[Jak]

Teneb is my General.

[Jak]

I cut the discard to add a Phantom Nishoba, Troll Ascetic, and Plaguelord. I also may cut the 2 "discard" creatures for some more accel or beats but the list has been okay.


So anyone? ..... Anyone?

[frogboy]

Is this for multiplayer or for duels? It seems like some sort of midrange beatdown strategy is terrible when the other guy has 40 life.

[THEchubbymuffin]

I would think that Land Tax would be good here.

[Rood]

This deck is faill for one reason. You do not run Shatter.

For shame =(.

[Jak]

I run Krosan Grip :)

@frogboy
It's for either. What would you reccomend to not make it suck?

[Zach Tartell]

I run Krosan Grip :)

@frogboy
It's for either. What would you reccomend to not make it suck?

It depends very much on your meta. I, for instance, have to play against 2 combo decks (UB Dranlu, which is pretty much just UB Long, and Azami)(that's mono-u high tide with wizards to do shit and draw cards) pretty much every time I sit down. As such, I play Teeg (list to follow when my fucking pimp sleeves come in and I find a real camera).

My list boils down to a boring aggro-control build with some boring cheap beats (Hedge Troll, Troll Asterisk (that's how Firefox thought it was spelled), Tarmogoyf, Loxodon Heirararch, Ravenous Baloth), utility beats (Wickerboro Elder, Indrink Stomphowler, Ethersworn Cannonist, Mother of Runes, Galepower Mage), and then a couple scary fat creatures that go bump in the night (the Liege in my colors, Stonehewer Giant, Quagnoth, Phantom Nishoba).

It depends on the roll you want to play. If you're in a meta where you can waste time, just play green for acceleration (Kodama's Reach, Primal Growth + mana dorks, Life from the Loam, Solemn Simulacrum), lots of removal (Sowrds, Diabolic Edict, Chainer's Edict, Pernicious Deed, Damnation, Wrath, Austere Command, Overwhelming Forces, Decree of Pain), and monsters (Visra, Phantom Nishoba, Adykar Valkyrie, Twilight Shepard, Child of Gaea) shit to fill up your hand (Ambition's Cost, Harmonize), and tricks (Debtor's Knell, Staff of Domination, Head Games, Evangelize), and tutors (Demonic, Vampiric, Diabolic, Imperial Seal, Beseech the Queen).

You need to keep in mind what you're playing against, duels or multiplayer, and proxies or no proxies.

[frogboy]

UB Long sounds interesting, actually. I should try messing with that.

re: Teneb.dec: I'd probably cut all the creatures for cards that are broken.

[Jak]

Thank you. I have never played EDH, but I think it would be awesome. I have no idea what I would face. I will try out some more anti-combo stuff since now I know I may see some form of combo.

Frogboy, please show me your broken-ness.

[frogboy]

I dunno, like, do something powerful instead of just running out some dumb animals that will just die. Draw more cards and rape the other guy's hand more. My EDH list is posted on here somewhere but in general you want to be doing things that make it really hard for them to win, either just by getting up on cards or getting the board to such a state that they can't come back.

[Jak]

I dunno, like, do something powerful instead of just running out some dumb animals that will just die. Draw more cards and rape the other guy's hand more. My EDH list is posted on here somewhere but in general you want to be doing things that make it really hard for them to win, either just by getting up on cards or getting the board to such a state that they can't come back.

I still dont really know how the format is. I was trying to play disruption but running only the good discard spells i see in Legacy wasnt really enough. I plan on making a few changes.

+ Teeg
+ Canonist
+ Thoughtseize
+ Duress
+ Hymn
+ Harmonize
+ Persecute

Cut some stuff like Paguelord, Wall of Roots, Yavimaya Elder, etc. Is there any other disruption that's good? Mind Twist maybe? Also, how fast are the combo decks?

[Loxodon Baileyarch]

You would be utterly crushed with that deck in multiplayer, but in single player it's the other way around.

Is this for single or multiplayer?

[frogboy]

Loxodon: Any control deck would massacre the deck in the OP.

Jak: Yeah, those would be good. I have no idea if combo decks are actually real in EDH or not, but if they're not then Canonist is miserable. The thing is, people have so much life that you can't really hope to win via the attack step because there are so many cards that kill your guys for value. You have to just pick something brutal and go with that, either getting up on cards or doing something stupid with Tinker or going infinite somehow.

[Loxodon Baileyarch]

Loxodon: Any control deck would massacre the deck in the OP.

Jak: Yeah, those would be good. I have no idea if combo decks are actually real in EDH or not, but if they're not then Canonist is miserable. The thing is, people have so much life that you can't really hope to win via the attack step because there are so many cards that kill your guys for value. You have to just pick something brutal and go with that, either getting up on cards or doing something stupid with Tinker or going infinite somehow.

Go token. I play EDH alot and every deck tends to pack at least like 10 boardsweepers (Wrath, Damnation, Final Judgement, etc.), and with tokens you can just rebuild with 80000000000 more dudes on your next play. Playing creatures like goyf and doran and attacking just doesn't work that well.

[frogboy]

What token generators do you use? And again, what do you do when they go about doing something broken and then nuke your board as an afterthought despite taking like thirty damage?

[Loxodon Baileyarch]

What token generators do you use? And again, what do you do when they go about doing something broken and then nuke your board as an afterthought despite taking like thirty damage?

Uhm usually i play chaos multiplayer, which is just nuts fun. But i use like Sacred Mesa, Mobilization, Rhys the Redeemed is my general, stuff like that.

If you take thirty damage in one turn, you should probably just be dead anyway, and if they nuke your board, then you are dead anyway. I'm talking about creature nuke cards. Bc in multiplayer if you nuke someone's board, then everyone buttrapes you.

[frogboy]

Well obviously in multiplayer the entire dynamic changes, but if you're playing one on one what I said holds.

[Jak]

So I basically need to run blue to even be competitive? Doesn't sound like a ton of fun. Maybe run Geddon? Add a Sacred Mesa?