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    [Article] The Demigod Deck

    Quote Originally Posted by anusien
    I didn't intend much with the Demigod of Revenge deck but it became, I think, premier combo-control deck in Legacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by anusien
    The Demigod deck can be tough to play, and the mana issues are not insignificant. But when the deck gets going nothing can really stop it. The deck is flexible and offers plenty of room for opponents to screw up. I feel like Demigod is the most objectively powerful deck in the format.
    http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/l...n_Demigod.html

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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    It is possibly the first article by Anusien that I have enjoyed... so, this was pretty neat. ;)
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    Threshold:

    Favorable pre-board, favorable post-board
    Maindeck cards to include: Diabolic Edict
    Reasonable sideboard cards: Krosan Grip
    Because every deck is 80/20 with threshold.

    This deck seems horrible if you dont have urborg.
    Dragon Stompy:

    Slightly favorable pre-board, favorable post-board.
    Maindeck cards to include: Diabolic Edict, Nevinyrral's Disk
    Reasonable sideboard cards: Blue Elemental Blast, Thoughtseize, Nevinyrral's Disk
    No more favorable then any other deck. Stompy beats itself you force the T1 nuttyness or they win.

    This deck also wants to punt to relic of prog.

    All in all this deck appears to be like a bad survival and its the fear love child. Both decks have the same weaknesses the yard and the reliance on intuition resolving.

    The deck honestly appears unimpressive overall and fills the same spot that its the fear fills. Really just feels like a bad its the fear but thats just my thoughts on it.
    I c h o r i d - my anti blue
    Manaless Ichorid- At least its cheeper than standard.
    We admit for the sake of the exercise that following is true:
    Landstill > Fromat
    Non-Basic Hate > Landstill
    Basics > Non-Basic Hate
    We can therefore logically conlude that
    Basics > Format

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    This deck also wants to punt to relic of prog.

    All in all this deck appears to be like a bad survival and its the fear love child. Both decks have the same weaknesses the yard and the reliance on intuition resolving.
    Hey, way to nuke the yard. Out of idle curiosity, what were you planning on doing about my dragon?
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by frogboy View Post
    Hey, way to nuke the yard. Out of idle curiosity, what were you planning on doing about my dragon?
    So, with the "return" trigger on the stack, I'll counter Demigod. Then, I'll activate Relic.

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    Hey, way to nuke the yard. Out of idle curiosity, what were you planning on doing about my dragon?
    Dragon?
    Maindeck:

    Artifacts
    1 Engineered Explosives
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Vedalken Shackles

    Creatures
    3 Demigod Of Revenge
    1 Shriekmaw
    4 Tarmogoyf

    Enchantments
    4 Counterbalance
    2 Pernicious Deed


    Instants
    4 Brainstorm
    2 Diabolic Edict
    4 Force Of Will
    1 Gifts Ungiven
    3 Intuition
    1 Smother

    Sorceries
    1 Life From The Loam
    1 Raven's Crime

    Basic Lands
    2 Island
    1 Swamp

    Lands
    1 Breeding Pool
    4 Flooded Strand
    1 Lonely Sandbar
    4 Polluted Delta
    3 Tropical Island
    2 Underground Sea
    1 Wasteland

    Legendary Lands
    1 Academy Ruins
    3 Urborg, Tomb Of Yawgmoth
    1 Volrath's Stronghold
    Sideboard:

    1 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Yixlid Jailer
    4 Engineered Plague
    4 Blue Elemental Blast
    4 Thoughtseize

    Unless you mean the demigods which I would swords. Then your just a bad version of a U/tarmogoyf/countertop deck.

    EDIT: thats one way the other is to slowly eat the yard over and over untill theres nothing left in it just by default if intuition doesnt resolve.
    I c h o r i d - my anti blue
    Manaless Ichorid- At least its cheeper than standard.
    We admit for the sake of the exercise that following is true:
    Landstill > Fromat
    Non-Basic Hate > Landstill
    Basics > Non-Basic Hate
    We can therefore logically conlude that
    Basics > Format

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    Uhwah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Article
    I didn't intend much with the Demigod of Revenge deck but it became, I think, premier combo-control deck in Legacy because of the multiple avenues of both attack and defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    So, with the "return" trigger on the stack, I'll counter Demigod. Then, I'll activate Relic.
    Yeah, I guess making the opponent two for one himself kind of sucks.

    (well, it's not, but realistically people would be playing Crypt here, so, you know.)

    It's also unfortunate that the deck has no way of removing a yard hoser as needed or ways to counter back when the opponent tries to stop you or anything.

    Honestly. I'm not even a super big fan of the deck beyond it's 'omg brawr' awesome but people are being way too dismissive.

    (ps, Anusien, fourth Top, kthx)
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    I'm not really trying to be dismissive, but w/e. I was merely pointing out that it's not really that difficult to play around the Demigod ability.

    And I've gotta agree with Cabal-Kun. What could possibly have inspired that idea in Binswanger's head? I've seen literally zero people play this deck. Premier actually has a meaning. Look it up.

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    Relic of Progenitus is actually really unimpressive. Extirpate is better because you have to get lucky to counter it with Counterbalance. And in either case it's not like you completely lose; I've easily won through that before. They can stop your Loams or your Demigods but not both and certainly neither of these plans beat "Counterbalance Goyf RARRR".

    So which Threshold cards are supposed to scare me? They have Daze, possibly Stifle, and StP as just about the only relevant cards I care about (aside from Counterbalance, Force and Goyf which I also have). But hey, we never question all the other Counterbalance + Pernicious Deed + Tarmogof decks beating Threshold, so why start now?
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    What could possibly have inspired that idea in Binswanger's head? I've seen literally zero people play this deck. Premier actually has a meaning. Look it up.
    Address this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Address this point.
    I think it's really good. It tests well. Frogboy had some success with it, and everybody who saw the deck at that tournament seemed to be at least somewhat impressed. People I know online are excited by it.
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    Please be less rambling in your next post. I only bothered with figuring out what the fuck you were trying to ask because I took it as a challenge.

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    "Generally in this matchup you want to cast Sensei's Divining Top on turn 1 and play a removal spell on your own Tarmogoyf on turn 3 (to play around Daze)."

    Now this really baffled me. For like five minutes. I read it four times and did not get it.


    ..until I realized I read it wrong and I'm just too tired. It says "or your own tarmogoyf" in the article.

    Just felt like sharing this with someone.

    Oh! Oh! When I played the deck at a local tournament I used the prerelease Demigods. It's really fun to slam three penises on the table and make some stupid jokes about "are you going to take it to your face?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anusien View Post
    I think it's really good. It tests well. Frogboy had some success with it, and everybody who saw the deck at that tournament seemed to be at least somewhat impressed. People I know online are excited by it.
    You thinking its good, and online excitement don't translate into it being the best control/combo deck in the format.

    It's comments like these that undermine your credibility as a writer, and piss off the people who actually have a clue about the format.

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    Demigod might have a place in legacy but I think that honestly it isnt in U/X intuition decks, its either in goyf sligh, sui or trainwreck or something.
    I c h o r i d - my anti blue
    Manaless Ichorid- At least its cheeper than standard.
    We admit for the sake of the exercise that following is true:
    Landstill > Fromat
    Non-Basic Hate > Landstill
    Basics > Non-Basic Hate
    We can therefore logically conlude that
    Basics > Format

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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    I thought this was a pretty solid article marred by an (admittedly very) dumb sentence in the first paragraph. This place needs less hyperventilating. I suspect if someone popular with the Source had written the same article there would be a lot less sniping going on.

    EDIT -- With Dragon Stompy seemingly having fallen off the face of the Earth, and that deck being the original impetus for the design of this one, perhaps that should lead to some rethinking of the deck for the new metagame?
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    If the (mis?)use of one word upsets you this much, I feel very bad for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illissius View Post
    I suspect if someone popular with the Source had written the same article there would be a lot less sniping going on.
    This.
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    Relying on blind luck as an answer to Extirpate seems like a bad plan. Also, when did he break the format the first time? I remember a 4C Landstill variant with 8-10 colorless lands that consistently lost to its own mana problems ...
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    Re: Anusien Breaks Format: Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    You thinking its good, and online excitement don't translate into it being the best control/combo deck in the format.

    It's comments like these that undermine your credibility as a writer, and piss off the people who actually have a clue about the format.
    The comment was prefaced.

    ...I think...
    Besides, it's competing with what, It's the Fear for that title? I can buy that.
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