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    Re: GRAND PRIX: CHICAGO!!! - Live Coverage

    Progenitus Threshold is probably the only "normal" deck out there. All the others have some surprising choices. "Not Quite Eva Green", 4c Zoo (??!), Rg Goblins (why no black?), Next Level Blue and Merfolk Wizards.
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    Yeah, good deck!!!

    ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh, dreadstill and landstill suck easy in Chicago!!!

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    The first deck is running three Riptide Laboratories, plus Spellstutter Sprites as the only Faeries in a Merfolk deck. Not bad per se, but surprising.
    Mutavault is also very relevant.
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    VsTheWorld is 9-2 now and Forceofwill is 8-3. Also, Brassman finally dropped a match apparantly, but is still an extremely solid 10-1.
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    Rich Shay's Day 2 opponent was a no show! Isn't that an automatic drop for the absent player?
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    Nice Merfolks-faeries.

    Mana base with 10 non basic-lands, but nice job muta + sprite + riptide.

    In this version i think is good to play sower in sideboard too!!!


    @ 1 black lyne is very very random and a dead draw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aj-capra View Post
    ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh, dreadstill and landstill suck easy in Chicago!!!
    J/K ?!

    There is a gap between beeing defeated once in swiss, and being trash.

    It's also irrevelant for a deck like landstill which can be easily caught off-guard and drawing (out of time) while deserving a win.

    Question : would WotC post metagame breakdown for day2 in events like GP and such ?!?

    That would be interesting. I wonder if combo day 2'ed through all those BlueDecks...

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    The 4c Zoo list seems cool to me, is some kind of neo-Threshold, at least understanding Threshold in the old flavour of the deck: undercosted vanillas, and Nacatl/Kird Ape grows instantly. Looks pretty fun, I mean, grabbing two Nacatl with ranger of Eos is technically card advantage, but maybe falls in the danger of coool things category... but while we're here discussing theory issues, that guy got undefeated yesterday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by godryk View Post
    The 4c Zoo list seems cool to me, is some kind of neo-Threshold, at least understanding Threshold in the old flavour of the deck: undercosted vanillas, and Nacatl/Kird Ape grows instantly. Looks pretty fun, I mean, grabbing two Nacatl with ranger of Eos is technically card advantage, but maybe falls in the danger og coool things category... but while we're here discussing theory issues, that guy got undefeated yesterday...
    Sounds really good after a board wipe or to overwhelm the ridiculous amount of shackles we've seen.

    Counterbalance in 1 out of 3 decks and you can sense the hatred towards that card from reading the featured matches yesterday... think it'll avoid the banhammer?

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    It should avoid the banhammer. And if it doesn't, it'll be released soon when Combo Summer would begin post the banhammer.

    After reading the latest feature match, I really like the blue 4c Zoo deck with Ranger. Wicked tech, tbh.

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    I also really like the blue Zoo list. Not too sure why, but after reading the feature match, I actually even like it more.

    About Counterbalance, it won't be banned. If anything, they'll give Top the hammer, just like they did in Extended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atwa View Post
    About Counterbalance, it won't be banned. If anything, they'll give Top the hammer, just like they did in Extended.
    Yep, the metagame seems mixed and healthy, at least as it's shown in the covergae.
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    To people who know this shit a lot better than I: How many points do you think will be needed to Top64?
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    Doesn't make much sense to ban cb or sdt.

    Natural order must be ban, because this is magic and not yu-gi-oh.

    Dreadnought + stifle is yu-gi-oh too, but this "combo" is less strong than order + progenitus, and dread kill easy too.

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    I forget if Probasco is on my team or not, but I wish him (and Rich Shay) the best of luck!

    I would actually LOVE to see CB/top broken up. It might not meet the criteria for dominance that banning usually requires, but man alive, do I just hate playing against it (and playing WITH it isn't really that fun either IMO).

    Doesn't make much sense to ban cb or sdt.

    Natural order must be ban, because this is magic and not yu-gi-oh.
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    “Counterbalance was confusing too, with players unsure whether revealing a land to Counterbalance could counter a zero casting cost spell.” It does. He also detailed a mistaken ruling from the feature match area on Saturday, where a judge errantly ruled that if a player didn’t consciously make mention of triggering the Counterbalance before doing something in response (like activating Sensei’s Divining Top to arrange the top three cards of the library favorably), the trigger was missed and the player couldn’t reveal. “Whenever an opponent plays a spell, Counterbalancemust trigger. When it comes to revealing the card, the controller of Counterbalance may choose to do that.” Response or not, the Counterbalance trigger goes on the stack.
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    Still not Chapin's fault though; he asked a judge how Counterbalance worked, and the judge gave him the wrong answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattH View Post
    I would actually LOVE to see CB/top broken up. It might not meet the criteria for dominance that banning usually requires, but man alive, do I just hate playing against it (and playing WITH it isn't really that fun either IMO).
    What about playing in a field full of combo?

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    Still not Chapin's fault though; he asked a judge how Counterbalance worked, and the judge gave him the wrong answer.
    Well, his question was clearly aimed at misleading his opponent and the judge (I can hardly believe a player like him doesn't know how CB works). From a purely legal point of view he's clear of course, but it's still incredibly unfairplay on his part.

    Is it just me, or are all those mirror feature matches incredibly boring? I wish they would give a little more credit to the diversity of the legacy metagame (even though CB thresh seems to be everywhere).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattH View Post
    I forget if Probasco is on my team or not, but I wish him (and Rich Shay) the best of luck!

    I would actually LOVE to see CB/top broken up. It might not meet the criteria for dominance that banning usually requires, but man alive, do I just hate playing against it (and playing WITH it isn't really that fun either IMO).


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    Re: GRAND PRIX: CHICAGO!!! - Live Coverage

    Although storm might maybe get a little to strong, I personally agree that it should be banned (along with Ad Nauseam. Btw, where the hell is that card in Chiacgo??). It just makes for unfun games. But I really hope that they'll ban CB instead of Top. I just like top to much..

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    So goobafish is still X-1 After round 12. I'm not sure about ForceofWill or konsultant.
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