[Deck] Solidarity

[Zinch]

The Day 2 Metagame breakdown is now in magicthegathering.com and there's no Solidarity on it...
I'm very dissapointed

[Bahamuth]

The Day 2 Metagame breakdown is now in magicthegathering.com and there's no Solidarity on it...
I'm very dissapointed

I didn't expect any really.

I played a 56-man tournament yesterday. I went 5-0-1 in the swiss rounds and lost my first top 8 match.

[TheyCallMeTim]

How is Ad Nauseam "crazy broken" if it's not even in DtB status ?

Necropotence, Yawgmoth's Bargain and now an instant-speed version? Seriously, maybe no one has been able to build a deck to take (enough) advantage of it but it is certainly more broken than Frantic Search. Unbanning our lowly draw spell just might make Solidarity tier 1 again. Simply resolving Ad Nauseam is game over most of the time, on turn 1 no less!! If that's not broken I don't know what is. So back to the question at hand: can we abuse it enough in Solidarity?

[Fons]

Did anyone play this at the GP?

[Citrus-God]

Necropotence, Yawgmoth's Bargain and now an instant-speed version? Seriously, maybe no one has been able to build a deck to take (enough) advantage of it but it is certainly more broken than Frantic Search. Unbanning our lowly draw spell just might make Solidarity tier 1 again. Simply resolving Ad Nauseam is game over most of the time, on turn 1 no less!! If that's not broken I don't know what is. So back to the question at hand: can we abuse it enough in Solidarity?

I'm probably the only person to think that Twincast is amazing in this deck. Oh, and Twincast is bomb against Ad Nauseam.

[Fons]

I'm probably the only person to think that Twincast is amazing in this deck. Oh, and Twincast is bomb against Ad Nauseam.

I like twincast alot in this deck it's very versitile and it usually replaces remand for me against thresh. It's great for copying orim's chant as well.

[Bahamuth]

I'm probably the only person to think that Twincast is amazing in this deck. Oh, and Twincast is bomb against Ad Nauseam.

It is amazing, just not mainboard, since it'll be too dead in many matchups. I've always played 2-3 SB.

This deck can't abuse AdN, since the card's engine goes against the principle of the deck. This deck is built to wait untill it's at low life before comboing.

[Fons]

It is amazing, just not mainboard, since it'll be too dead in many matchups. I've always played 2-3 SB.

This deck can't abuse AdN, since the card's engine goes against the principle of the deck. This deck is built to wait untill it's at low life before comboing.

I've been playing 1 maindeck instead of 2 Flash of Insight and it has been working great, I've found that running into doubles of Flash of insight is clunky while the one twincast usually shows up when i need it.

Has anyone been trying a splash just for the wishboard, if so what color for what cards?

[ParkerLewis]

Seriously, maybe no one has been able to build a deck to take (enough) advantage of it

It hasn't been broken, so it's not broken. Point made. Moving on...

Frantic Search is risky. I have no idea if it would be pushing Solidarity over the top, though. Counterbalance and al are still format defining cards.

[Illuvator Brightstar]

I've been playing 1 maindeck instead of 2 Flash of Insight and it has been working great, I've found that running into doubles of Flash of insight is clunky while the one twincast usually shows up when i need it.

Has anyone been trying a splash just for the wishboard, if so what color for what cards?

Most the splash talk I've read are usually either:

Green for Krosan Grip

White for Chant

And usually folks end up reaching the same conclusion, that it's not worth making the deck vulnerable to wasteland et al for the small benefit that's gained.

But I could be out of date :)

[Zinch]

It don't think this has changed... wasteland is very common in this days metagame and this deck needs to play a land each turn, at least until the fourth

[TheyCallMeTim]

I've been playing 1 maindeck instead of 2 Flash of Insight and it has been working great, I've found that running into doubles of Flash of insight is clunky while the one twincast usually shows up when i need it.

Has anyone been trying a splash just for the wishboard, if so what color for what cards?

I certainly agree with finding room for a twincast or two. However, there was a question earlier regarding how many copies of Brainfreeze are needed to target yourself with in order to reach a Flash of Insight and stack your library. Probability tells us that if there are 2 in the library then one must be in the top half (If you have already drawn one you shouldn't need to freeze yourself). Therefore, copies of BF = 1/3*{[(Graveyard + Library)/2]-Graveyard}. This is not possible with only 1 Flash.

[Mikeleroi]

What about white splash for Angel´s grace? If the other isn´t playing any sparks, it gives one more turn. It has split second, and just costs W, so one island could be a tundra and it´s enough

[Zinch]

I'm sorry, but what this deck needs is not a turn more (if that was the case, there are plenty of options in blue without needing a splash), what it needs is a reliable way of dealing with aggro control decks like thresh.

[TheyCallMeTim]

Is Cryptic Command really necessary in the deck? What does it do for us (other than the obvious versatility)? I'm planning on running the following list this Friday (don't have the money for CC's):

4 Opt
4 Brainstorm
3 Cunning Wish
4 Impulse
2 Flash of Insight
3 Meditate
1 Stroke of Genius
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4 Force of Will
4 Remand
2 Brain Freeze
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4 High Tide
4 Reset
3 Turnabout
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4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
13 Island

[Citrus-God]

It is amazing, just not mainboard, since it'll be too dead in many matchups. I've always played 2-3 SB.

I highly doubt it. You can combo off more consistently on Turn 4 with Twincast compared to Remand.

As for Ad Nauseam, I think it's safer to play Twincast rather than Ad Nauseam.

[TheyCallMeTim]

Sideboard:
1 Stifle
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Tolarian Winds
1 Words of Wisdom
1 Meditate
1 Rebuild
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Turnabout
2 Twincast
1 Wipe Away
1 Brainfreeze
1 Flash of Insight
1 Evacuation
1 Mana Short

[TheyCallMeTim]

I could run Gearhart's build, replacing Cryptic Command with Twincast? -Stroke of Genius + 2 Twincast (he plays 61 cards). Though I like the idea of having a Stroke available when there's a Twincast in hand.....

[Taurelin]

Is Cryptic Command really necessary in the deck? What does it do for us (other than the obvious versatility)?

It bounces Counterbalance AND is versatile enough to be maindecked. No other card fulfills both roles.

[Citrus-God]

I could run Gearhart's build, replacing Cryptic Command with Twincast? -Stroke of Genius + 2 Twincast (he plays 61 cards). Though I like the idea of having a Stroke available when there's a Twincast in hand.....

Gearhart runs 60 cards. He only ran 1 Twincast maindeck.