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I'm looking for a word "instead" in a text of this guy....
Well, is that really comparable? Minds eye triggers on the draw itself, meaning it triggers 3 times for brainstorm/standstill/whatever. The new wording on this, wouldn't it cause Wisescale Serpent's ability trigger only 1 time (while it forces you to draw 3 cards, it only forces you once)?Originally Posted by MattH
I reserve the right to say it sucks. But at the moment it seems very damn good.
If it doesnt trigger off the draw for the turn it isnt very good. If it does it is very very good.
If it doesnt last (till end of turn not counters) it sucks.
I c h o r i d - my anti blue
Manaless Ichorid- At least its cheeper than standard.
We admit for the sake of the exercise that following is true:
Landstill > Fromat
Non-Basic Hate > Landstill
Basics > Non-Basic Hate
We can therefore logically conlude that
Basics > Format
No: you get 3 counters. http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=13479
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably delicious.
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The fact that this has no evasion and is vulnerable to bounce is the only thing keeping this from being downright busted. It seems just plain better than Dryad in UG.
Does it automatically replace Nimble Mongoose, or do you find a way to squeeze some number of each of them in? I mean, 1-drops with shroud are still pretty useful.
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Another Goyf competitor, as the meta shifts inextricably towards high powered beaters for low cost.
People will hold Brainstorm to play right after they drop this, thus avoiding the Quirion Dryad problem of being too little when it lands in the midgame. It also pitches to Force of Will, making it an easy inclusion in Ug control or control-aggro.
In testing it was pretty busted, getting to ridiculous sizes very quickly. I was testing the original wording though where it activated from every card drawn including during your turn draw.
I see people using bounce as a drawback to the Serpent, but honestly, how many decks maindeck bounce? TES? Some MUC builds? I'd like to honestly know how much bounce you guys are seeing with such frequency that it's compelling you to name it as a drawback.
I do not think bounce is very relivant to this guy. They wouldn't bounce it until the mid game anyways when it has some counters on it, making them gain not much temp from the bounce and losing card advantage. The only "bounce" i see relevant against this is submerge, but even then it's not that bad. I would still play this guy against submerge.
Also I don't think he is a busted as some people think. He is no gofy. But he is still a very good card.
My thoughts exactly. I just don't understand how people are using bounce as a drawback. Snake or not, the Thresh player is going to eot Brainstorm, so why not pump your guy as a nice bonus? Bounce would factor into the Snake's playability if the Snake player was going out of his way to pump him, or sinking vast amounts of resources to pump him, but the Snake player isn't; the Serpent gets larger through natural game progression.
Also, what bounce spells are people seeing that bounce is even being brought up? TES plays 1x Chain of Vapor, ANT may play 1x Wipe Away/random bounce, MUC may play 1-2x Capsize, but that's about it. I don't exactly see Boomerang tearing into top 8's, so where is this fear of bounce coming from?
I am so going to test this out with Sylvan Library.
I think the card isn't as busted as some people think, however I do think it's a decent and interesting card.
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If this ends up being what it's been spoiled as, I'll just point out how similar this conversation is (thus far) to the spoiler conversation of Goyf. Just sayin.
It gets pretty huge in conjunction with Diminishing Returns.
It doesn't seem that thread is visible any more. Would it be possible for you to make it visible and psot a link? I really don't remeber that thread and it would be cool to see it knowing what we know now.
That sure is a lot of work, Dave.
QFT! People were hyping Knight of the Reliquary as the second coming of Goyf, too...
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I think it could be nearly as good as goyf, actually. It's less "splashable," but that doesn't really matter because it easily fits right into the same decks that currently use goyf to the greatest advantage.
And, yes, the only bounce spell that is particularly relevant is Submerge. As I mentioned before, Submerge is about to spike in popularity as a sideboard card.
This is all assuming the spoiler is correct, of course.
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I've reviewed the threads spoiling Goyf, but there isn't much to show. It's in Community, by the way.
Basically, a couple times people said "hey, this could be good." and then there are like three threads about it being banworthy, and that was it.
Still, this guy feels ominous. That's not the way I want to feel when I think about a new card in a set. Excitement, anticipation, yes. Foreboding dread? Not so much.
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