[NCD] Lorescale Coatl

[idraleo]

Because it impacts only legacy, standard or extended decks will never run a card such like this one...

[Aggro_zombies]

Because it impacts only legacy, standard or extended decks will never run a card such like this one...

As much as I want to deny this, it's true. Wizards only really tests Limited and Standard, and this is fine to meh in Limited and homeless in Standard.

Still, I don't think it's overpowered. Costing three mana is actually relevant to a traditional Threshold deck.

[C.P.]

Well, since UGx decks were turning to slower, but more powerful creatures anyway, Coatle seems perfect fit. It does seem really solid in the said archtype, too. It does seem better than tombstalker in decks that does not require BB otherwise(in that it is easier on your mana and solid in multiples).

[KillemallCFH]

I very much look forward to building a janky control deck running sets of this, Hoofprints, Sylvan Library, and Jace.

That being said, I'm still undecided on this card. I know it's at least somewhat powerful, but only testing will prove just how powerful.

[hi-val]

This is potentially the best card in the set for Legacy and might revolutionize blue control. It makes Sensei's Top all the better, since with a duplicate, you can do something like: top, draw step, brainstorm, top, top, top and swing in with a 10/10.

My greatest fear is people mispronouncing "Coatl," which is a Nahuatl word pronounced like "ko-wa-tul" and not like "kote-ul." I only bring this up because of all the poor "Nack-tals" roaming the Earth...

[Nightmare]

My greatest fear is people mispronouncing "Coatl," which is a Nahuatl word pronounced like "ko-wa-tul" and not like "kote-ul." I only bring this up because of all the poor "Nack-tals" roaming the Earth...

Whatever dude. Try being the only person on the planet who pronounces Adarkar Wastes properly.

a-DARK-arrrr, people.

[Peter_Rotten]

And while we're on the subject, screw Pithing Needle. Stupid people always saying Need-al instead of Need-el.

[Nightmare]

And while we're on the subject, screw Pithing Needle. Stupid people always saying Need-al instead of Need-el.

Lulz. Well played, sir.

[quicksilver]

Whatever dude. Try being the only person on the planet who pronounces Adarkar Wastes properly.

a-DARK-arrrr, people.

Also pretty sure Adarkar is a made up word, or at least extremly obscure.

Coatl is actually a real word taken from the Aztec for snake. And it is pronounced very similar to ko-wa-tul.

Also apparently the plural of Coatl is Cocoah (sounds like Koe-Koe-ah)

So I guess it would be correct to say "I have two Lorescale Cocoah in play"

[Peter_Rotten]

And the correct pronunciation is Tar-moe-GOOF.

[Zach Tartell]

I'm pretty sure that in the Popol Vuh 2 hunter and 12 hunter had to fight a band of Lorescale Cocoah to do whatever they were trying to.

Although I could very well be mistaken. It's either an eerie parallel of the book of Genesis or the prequel of the Alara Reborn magic book.

[Peter_Rotten]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this card is going to be as good as Countryside Crusher. Co-At-Tull dies to all the relevant Legacy removal AND ALL relevant burn spells unless you have a Brainstorm to protect it. Edict, Snuff Out, StP, Path, Deed, EE, and Wrath. You need to cast spells to make him good, so he is a rather mediocre top-deck. No cards in hand and you top-deck him? WOOT, I have a 2/2 for 3 mana. WOOT, I can chump Goyf. He realistically can't handle Tombstalker until you cast a Brainstorm. In fact, this card is starting to remind me of Forgotten Ancient.

[on1y0ne]

Also pretty sure Adarkar is a made up word, or at least extremly obscure.

Adarkar is the last name of a former Wizards employee. There was an article a few years back written by him where he tells a story about how someone tried to correct his pronunciation when he played and announced the land during a tournament game.
Also, Nightmare has the pronunciation correct. The "arrrrr" at the end is pronounced as if you were a pirate.

[URABAHN]

Whatever dude. Try being the only person on the planet who pronounces Adarkar Wastes properly.

a-DARK-arrrr, people.

You are not alone, my friend. On a related note, how do you all pronounce "Soldevi"?

I've heard Soul Dev Ee, I go with Soul Duh Vie.

[zulander]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this card is going to be as good as Countryside Crusher.

I think this is pretty accurate, however I think he's a bit better because it's easier to make this guy grow. What I'm trying to do is fit him and crusher in the same deck, so far it's been pretty ugly.

[ansset]

Try harder zu, and if that fails PM me for my list.

[Jeet]

Here is the final wording. From the Alara Reborn FAQ:

Lorescale Coatl
{1}{G}{U}
Creature -- Snake
2/2
Whenever you draw a card, you may put a +1/+1 counter on Lorescale Coatl.

* If a spell or ability causes you to draw multiple cards, Lorescale Coatl's ability triggers that many times.

* If a spell or ability causes you to put cards in your hand without specifically using the word "draw," Lorescale Coatl's ability won't trigger.

[majikal]

The more I think about this card, the more I am amazed by just how powerful it is.

[Eldariel]

I like this card much more than Goyf simply because every deck just can't cram it in and call it a day. That said, every deck with Ponder/Brainstorm/Top can. Still, it's nowhere near as omniplayable; sucks it had to cram its ugly scales into the one friggin' deck that didn't need better creatures though.

[Forbiddian]

This is ridiculous.



Also, it's 100x better than Countryside Crusher, if only because it's UG instead of RR. It also grows faster and more reliably. Without support it will always get +1/+1, and it's likely going to be thrown into decks with like:

4 Brainstorm
3-4 Ponder
4 Top

I just see plays like: Activate top, find Brainstorm. Brainstorm, fetchland, find Ponder. Ponder, find Brainstorm. Brainstorm....

I don't know if anybody remembers Vintage before they restricted Gush/Ponder/Brainstorm, but this really reeks of the same thing. But the scariest part is that it's not just a combo piece. Even with extremely limited draw support (very surprising, considering the decks this will go into have at least 10 draw spells), this creature gets big enough to tackle Tarmogoyf very quickly.