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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    I've been testing this list to good results:


    4 Prog
    4 Inkwell
    4 Emp Archangel
    3 SSS
    3 UW Cascade
    4 RG Cascade
    4 Show & Tell
    4 Force of Will
    4 MisD
    2 Hypergenesis
    4 SSG
    4 ESG
    4 City of Brass
    4 Gemstone Mine
    4 Forbidden Orchard
    4 Sulfur Vent

    SB: 4 Intuition
    SB: 4 Krosan Grip
    SB: 4 Jund Charm
    SB: 3 Platinum Angel

    You'll note that I only play 7 cascade cards. Hypergenesis is a mixed blessing in that sometimes you have your worst guys (Emp Archangel or SSS) and your opp drops 2x goyf or goyf + some exalted dudes. Other times, you run into a real aggro deck and they drop a fistful of goblins, merfolk, or elves. In my mind, losing games where you resolve your best spell is unacceptable. S&T remedies this problem by only giving them one guy (who is unlikely to match even your worst dude (SSS)). S&T incidentally avoids problems with Chalice @ 0 (Intuition postboard helps you find it more often) and pitches to Force of Will better than Demonic Dread. It's also far easier to cast than Ardent Plea or Demonic Dread.

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    Show and Tell to Progenitus is just unfair =]

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    Not that I like the version the best, but the hasty version should play Kresh, the Bloodbraided. He gets bigger for every ball lightning you play, plus other stuff is bound to die. He's a big threat that sticks around in case the initial punch doesn't get it done. Plus he gets bigger for every dude they lose too.
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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    Quote Originally Posted by emidln View Post
    I've been testing this list to good results:


    4 Prog
    4 Inkwell
    4 Emp Archangel
    3 SSS
    3 UW Cascade
    4 RG Cascade
    4 Show & Tell
    4 Force of Will
    4 MisD
    2 Hypergenesis
    4 SSG
    4 ESG
    4 City of Brass
    4 Gemstone Mine
    4 Forbidden Orchard
    4 Sulfur Vent
    Almost excatly like my list: All the Hypergenesis targets pitch to Force and Misdirection, which are both played as 4-ofs. Misdirection is equal to fow when protecting the combo from counters. This list is really straightforward and I like it that way. I do not run Show and Tell, though but Shriekmaw instead. It is also a great last drop when you resolve Hypergenesis.

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    The m10 ruling update means no more violent outbursing blockers? =[

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    Quote Originally Posted by enemyofarsenic View Post
    The m10 ruling update means no more violent outbursing blockers? =[
    Why that?

    Shriekmaw looks very inferior to Oblivion Ring, even if that last one can't attack, it is awesome to deal with humility, propaganda, or any hindrance.

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    I guess my question is, will this deck be affected by the recent m10 rules changes?

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    What ruling? Link? Quote? Something...

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    Quote Originally Posted by enemyofarsenic View Post
    I guess my question is, will this deck be affected by the recent m10 rules changes?
    Not directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maveric78f View Post
    Why that?

    Shriekmaw looks very inferior to Oblivion Ring, even if that last one can't attack, it is awesome to deal with humility, propaganda, or any hindrance.
    Angel of Despair > Shriekmaw

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    Not at all, because shriekmaw can be played obviously. I proposed O-Ring because you can play it and becasue it's not sensitive to humility.

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    What is SSS???? Are you not playing Magister Sphinx?

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    thanks, i thought that it could be but i wasn´t sure. And Sphynx?? Is because an Sphynx with genitus is only one strike.

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    Spynx is bad because it can't win the game by itself very well.

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    O-Ring > Shriekmaw > Angel of Dispair.

    O-Ring handles Humility plus everything these two handle.

    I'm using Decree of Silence (I'm claiming this lol) in my SB as a 3-of along with 4x Rule of Law//Arcane Lab. Beats Storm combo and as long as you drop any creature power 7 or greater you win before they resolve anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Cynic87 View Post
    O-Ring > Shriekmaw > Angel of Dispair.

    O-Ring handles Humility plus everything these two handle.

    I'm using Decree of Silence (I'm claiming this lol) in my SB as a 3-of along with 4x Rule of Law//Arcane Lab. Beats Storm combo and as long as you drop any creature power 7 or greater you win before they resolve anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Cynic87 View Post
    O-Ring > Shriekmaw > Angel of Dispair.

    O-Ring handles Humility plus everything these two handle.

    I'm using Decree of Silence (I'm claiming this lol) in my SB as a 3-of along with 4x Rule of Law//Arcane Lab. Beats Storm combo and as long as you drop any creature power 7 or greater you win before they resolve anything.

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    Re: Cascade Hypergenesis

    Quote Originally Posted by emidln View Post
    While I can't claim it for myself, I know that the NY guys have been testing Decree of Silence for awhile now.
    Nice. Me too, I didn't necessarily mean claim it, but I hadn't heard it mentioned here before so I thought I would mention what has been winning me games that could have been losses.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zach Tartell View Post
    You realize that you'd have to combo off and then drop the ROL/AL, 'cause it stops you from comboing too.
    Yep, I understand how the cards work...

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