8/8 Die Hard Games Mega Legacy Tourney! Sapphire/Twister/Duals $25 Entry Free Food!

**Dxfiler** · 07-07-2009 01:37 AM

Hello again ;)

I have been quietly plotting my next big legacy tournament. It took me a while to figure out exactly how to follow-up my birthday tourney, but I believe this is a worthy successor.

So without further ado...

DIE HARD GAMES MEGA LEGACY TOURNAMENT- AUGUST

WHERE: DIE HARD GAMES
1005 Main St. Pawtucket, Rhode Island 02860
Unit 2230 Hope Artise Village
(401) 312-3407

WHEN: August 8th! Doors open at 10:00. Signups 10:30 to 11:50.
Tournament starts sharply at noon

ENTRY FEE: $25 This includes Free Lunch!

Additional food may be purchased on-site.

FORMAT: Sanctioned Legacy
Competitive

PRIZES:

1st Mox Sapphire (Unlimited)
2nd Timetwister (Unlimited)
3rd Two Volcanic Island (Revised)
4th Two Bayou (Revised)

3rd/4th will have a playoff

5th-8th
Picks from the GOODY TABLE. Goodies from my past Mox tournaments included Fetches/Force of Wills and other popular legacy staples.

Prizes based on 32 people. Will scale according to attendance.

9-12th will receive prize if 40 people show. 13-16th will receive prize if 48 show.

Trades are fine, but please no excessive inventory. Luggage/Suitcases/bags full of excess trade are not permitted. Also the only buying/selling allowed in the store is at the counter (with me :p). Anyone breaking these rules will be asked to leave.

The rel level is competitive, but the emphasis on this tourney (and all my tourneys) is fun. So try to have fun =D

I'm looking forward to this very much. You guys made the last one great and I have no doubt this one will be even better.

Thanks as always.

- Dave Feinstein

**Jaynel** · 07-07-2009 09:25 AM

I enjoy your tournaments a lot and intend no offense by this, but 4th gets boned pretty hard in the prize department.

**rockout** · 07-07-2009 09:50 AM

I said to myself since I missed your Bday tournament I'd make your next big tournament. Also, being after my own Bday doesn't hurt. Looking forward to checking out the new shop.

**Dxfiler** · 07-07-2009 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jaynel

I enjoy your tournaments a lot and intend no offense by this, but 4th gets boned pretty hard in the prize department.

Prizes will increase based on attendance, just like they did last time.

Third/Fourth playoff also, so it's not like you don't have a shot at the bigger prizes.

**Dxfiler** · 07-13-2009 02:05 AM

The first chance for winning a bye to this event is this Thursday.

Thanks again for the interest.

- Dave =D

**technogeek5000** · 07-13-2009 06:58 AM

Should be here, maybe with uncle and dad but I dunno.

**cdr** · 07-13-2009 07:18 AM

Sanctioned + byes? Those don't mix. I'm guessing it's not sanctioned.

**sunshine** · 07-13-2009 07:24 PM

Sounds like a good tourney, you can count me in. Sad face on no sanctioning though if that is the case.

**Dxfiler** · 07-14-2009 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by cdr

Sanctioned + byes? Those don't mix. I'm guessing it's not sanctioned.

You'd be guessing wrong. It's sanctioned.

There's nothing in the floor rules prohibiting awarding byes at smaller tournaments to bigger events.

Just to be safe I called the WPN and not only did they approve of my awarding byes to the Mega Legacy, they agreed it was a creative way to help promote the store and my upcoming events.

My tournaments are always by the book.

Please do a little research before posting stuff like this.

Thanks.

- Dave

**Dxfiler** · 07-15-2009 12:37 AM

I recently got some new inventory, and that let me bump base prizes a little more.

Fourth place has been changed from 1 Trop to 2 Bayou.

Third/Fourth will still playoff to determine who gets the Volcs and who gets the Bayous.

Keep in mind these are just base prizes listed in my original post, and they will scale according to attendance... so show up and bring friends ;)

Thanks again.

- Dave

**cdr** · 07-15-2009 01:53 PM

Yes, there is - you're explicitly not allowed to award byes to a sanctioned tournament except in special circumstances pre-approved by the DCI.

I hope you can see the potential for abuse in awarding byes, which is why people are usually not allowed to do it.

Now, they might be loosening the policy, but if they are I am not aware of it and neither are the multiple L3+ judges I asked.

In your case, "the WPN" seems to have given you permission, so I guess it's on their head if it turns out you're not supposed to be awarding byes. There's some chance "the WPN" is some custserv yahoo who doesn't know what the heck he's talking about, though. I'm going to be e-mailing the judge manager today so I'll ask him about the subject.

Originally Posted by Dxfiler

You'd be guessing wrong. It's sanctioned.

There's nothing in the floor rules prohibiting awarding byes at smaller tournaments to bigger events.

Just to be safe I called the WPN and not only did they approve of my awarding byes to the Mega Legacy, they agreed it was a creative way to help promote the store and my upcoming events.

My tournaments are always by the book.

Please do a little research before posting stuff like this.

Thanks.

- Dave

**frogboy** · 07-15-2009 01:57 PM

FWIW, there was a tournament in Seattle about six months ago run by a local TO and an L3. They were going to award round one byes through feeders before finding out they couldn't, and ended up not sanctioning the event.

**Dxfiler** · 07-16-2009 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by cdr

Yes, there is - you're explicitly not allowed to award byes to a sanctioned tournament except in special circumstances pre-approved by the DCI.

I hope you can see the potential for abuse in awarding byes, which is why people are usually not allowed to do it.

I understand the potential for abuse, but I've always been responsible with byes.

I hope you can see that making statements like 'byes and sanctioned don't mix' and then stating my tournament 'is probably unsanctioned' is irresponsible and potentially harmful because you're just making assumptions based on incomplete information.

My tournament is sanctioned and approved by WOTC. That's all that matters.

- Dave

**cdr** · 07-16-2009 01:30 AM

I am "making assumptions" based on my knowledge of DCI policy, of which I have considerable experience. I apologize if it came off rudely, but as far as I'm aware what you're planning to do/have been doing violates policy.

**Dxfiler** · 07-16-2009 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by cdr

I am "making assumptions" based on my knowledge of DCI policy, of which I have considerable experience. I apologize if it came off rudely, but as far as I'm aware what you're planning to do/have been doing violates policy.

Well what you're 'aware of' does not constitute everything under DCI policy.

Just please be more responsible before making posts like that, because as a level two judge you have more influence than a random poster would.

I am cleared to run this event as sanctioned. End of story.

- Dave

**cdr** · 07-17-2009 03:10 PM

Unfortunately, I have confirmed that awarding byes is not allowed. I sent you a PM.

**rockout** · 07-17-2009 04:49 PM

Why can't you just not tell the DCI that you are awarding byes? I'm sure it's illegal by DCI terms but I'm sure it happens a lot and the event is sanctioned anyway.

**cdr** · 07-17-2009 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by rockout

Why can't you just not tell the DCI that you are awarding byes? I'm sure it's illegal by DCI terms but I'm sure it happens a lot and the event is sanctioned anyway.

Because then you would be committing tournament fraud, someone would report you, and you'd get banned from the DCI. Getting banned is kind of bad for a TO/store.

If you want to award byes, just don't sanction the event. Simple.

**keys** · 07-17-2009 04:59 PM

There should be a beta Force of Nature in the prize pot to commemorate the date.

**Maagler** · 07-21-2009 05:52 PM

I'm coming to this with at least one more... maybe two.

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