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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    I think green could definitely be a worthwhile splash. It also gives some recursion.

    So...

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Then we have got to go for the...
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Quote Originally Posted by MULocke View Post
    4 Force of Will - Otherwise, you lose to Belcher.
    And with 4 FoW in a 240+ card deck things change drastically...

    4 Misdirection - Force 5-8 to protect Battle of Wits
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    At least 1 Replenish for Intuition and Gift stacks probably.

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Valtrix View Post
    I think it should probably be straight UW. They're going to give the best tutoring/control, and I guess I don't see another color adding enough to compensate the possible inconsistency, but maybe I'm wrong. (Green gives us goyf/sterling grove/grip/other/Knight of the Reliquary/loam)

    Also:
    4x Tundra (Obligatory)
    and 4 Flooded Strand, equally obligatory, especially if this deck does splash a third colour.

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Last month a friend of mine played BoW at a tournament.
    He didn't went that good, but also because he made some bad play errors
    (Wtf? SB 4 Plagues against Goblins, but he didn't boarded it and instead searching Plagues, he searched Moat with his Rector and loose to SGC)

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    // Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

    // Lands
    7 [ALA] Plains (1)
    2 [8E] Salt Marsh
    4 [U] Tundra
    4 [ON] Polluted Delta
    4 [FUT] River of Tears
    4 [8E] City of Brass
    4 [IA] Adarkar Wastes
    4 [ALA] Swamp (1)
    10 [ALA] Island (1)
    4 [ALA] Arcane Sanctum
    4 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
    1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
    4 [FUT] Tolaria West
    2 [IA] Underground River
    4 [ON] Flooded Strand
    4 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
    1 [DK] Maze of Ith
    4 [ON] Lonely Sandbar
    4 [SHM] Mystic Gate
    4 [TE] Reflecting Pool
    2 [GP] Godless Shrine
    4 [RAV] Watery Grave
    4 [U] Underground Sea
    2 [FUT] Nimbus Maze
    4 [U] Scrubland
    1 [PLC] Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    1 [MM] Dust Bowl

    // Creatures
    3 [LRW] Liliana Vess
    3 [LRW] Jace Beleren
    4 [FD] Trinket Mage
    3 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
    4 [UD] Academy Rector

    // Spells
    4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    4 [ALA] Relic of Progenitus
    4 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    3 [DIS] Azorius Signet
    4 [WL] Mind Stone
    3 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
    4 [MR] Talisman of Dominance
    4 [RAV] Dimir Signet
    2 [PLC] Damnation
    2 [ON] Smother
    1 [FUT] Slaughter Pact
    4 [BD] Diabolic Edict
    4 [AP] Vindicate
    1 [MM] Trade Routes
    3 [IN] Fact or Fiction
    4 [DIS] Spell Snare
    3 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    1 [FUT] Pact of Negation
    4 [CST] Brainstorm
    4 [LRW] Ponder
    4 [7E] Counterspell
    4 [JU] Cunning Wish
    4 [7E] Force Spike
    4 [9E] Mana Leak
    4 [GP] Repeal
    1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
    4 [FNM] Impulse
    4 [AL] Force of Will
    3 [TE] Intuition
    4 [9E] Battle of Wits
    4 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge
    3 [CNF] Path to Exile
    4 [IA] Swords to Plowshares
    4 [6E] Enlightened Tutor
    4 [LG] Moat
    4 [10E] Wrath of God
    1 [TE] Humility
    4 [10E] Condemn
    4 [ALA] Esper Charm
    3 [PS] Dromar's Charm
    2 [GP] Mortify

    // Sideboard
    SB: 1 [FUT] Slaughter Pact
    SB: 1 [IN] Fact or Fiction
    SB: 1 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    SB: 1 [TE] Intuition
    SB: 1 [CNF] Path to Exile
    SB: 1 [DS] Echoing Truth
    SB: 1 [IN] Dismantling Blow
    SB: 1 [US] Stroke of Genius
    SB: 1 [7E] Evacuation
    SB: 1 [DS] Pulse of the Fields
    SB: 1 [AQ] Hurkyl's Recall


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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    You really need: Traumatize + Worm harvest.

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    +4 Crucible of Worlds

    Crucible and Life from the Loam = lots of land drops. When you start to run out of slots, you can probably cut a LftL, but not until then.
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Quote Originally Posted by THEchubbymuffin View Post
    At least 1 Replenish for Intuition and Gift stacks probably.
    Might as well call for a 4 of since we are running 250ish cards.
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    An important part of Battle decklists is always that they have the best threats and win with Battle only about half the time or so.

    4 Force of Will
    4 Counterbalance
    4 Counterspell
    4 Spell Snare

    4 Tarmogoyf
    4 Sower of Temptation
    4 Vedalken Shackles
    4 Trinket Mage
    4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant

    4 Nevinyrral's Disk
    4 Wrath of God
    4 Moat
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    4 Path to Exile

    4 Sensei's Divining Top
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Fact or Fiction
    4 Jace Beleren
    4 Impulse

    There are the first 80 cards...
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    Counterbalance just sucks 90% of the time you reveal a card (+manipultion).

    You also need so much spotremoval.
    So combine it in multiple choice cards (Esper Charm, Dromars Charm etc).
    Also, green is such a bad color in this deck.

    Goyf....wow Goyf..he sucks in 240 card-decks because green sucks in 240 card decks ;)
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    If it were me I'd splash green for Life from the loam, krosan grip

    Also playable in this should be AK, Intuition, then you could hard lock with Forbid.

    Forbid+ LFTL seems teh nuts.

    I think crucible needs to find its way as a one of as well.

    E tutor obviously

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    Green could also be used to land-thin...surely desirable in a 240 card deck.

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    How about survival+ the whole cool creature package? I think it would be a good addition to the deck.
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    Lets just put Thresh, Merfolk, Survival together, add some tutors and BoWs.

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    I really didn't want this to turn into people just posting long lists of cards that should go in...

    4 Wrath of God

    The deck needs to be able to play the control role.

    Edit - To make things easier, I am posting the list at least every page.

    Decklist (so far)
    UWg Battle of the Wits

    Lands
    4 Tundra
    4 Flooded Strand

    Draw
    4 Sensei's Divining Top
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Fact or Fiction

    Tutors
    4 Enlightened Tutor
    4 Mystical Tutor
    4 Idyllic Tutor
    4 Intuition
    4 Gifts Ungiven

    Counters
    4 Force of Will
    4 Counterspell
    4 Forbid

    Removal
    4 Wrath of God

    Recursion
    4 Life from the Loam
    4 Crucible of Worlds
    4 Replenish

    Creatures
    4 Academy Rector

    Win
    4 Battle of the Wits

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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    If your running intuition+gifts+ replenish Id go with
    + 1 Academy ruins Lock
    +4 Threads of Disloyalty good with gift/intuition/replenish
    +4 E.E Lock
    +1 Dustbowl Lock
    +1 regrowth NEEDED FOR GIFT PILES!
    +1 tormonds crypt vs. dredge, and Loam decks.
    Makes for the dumb nut intuition/ gift piles.

    Also 2-3 replenish is the right number.
    Your only ever going to want to see it when you gifts for like battle, regrowth, replenish, fow?

    I know that stupid possibility with it but This deck is slow and if you have a replenish in your opening 7 it REALLY hurts this deck.

    Just saying.

    Also you need 4 moat AND 4 humility to even dream about beating Agg./dredge.

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    4 Pentad Prism

    It fixes mana and accelarates whatever business you have to play.


    Jak, I believe several cards, mainly on color duals and fetchs are given. Could we just consider 16 fetchs and 12 duals are in?
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    Re: Battle of Wits!

    I have played battle for a while and this list can drop battle/Exalted Angel turn 2.


    // Lands
    4 [ON] Flooded Strand
    4 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
    4 [ON] Windswept Heath
    4 [ON] Polluted Delta
    4 [AN] City of Brass
    7 [MR] Plains (4)
    11 [U] Swamp (1)
    4 [10E] Adarkar Wastes
    4 [IA] Underground River
    4 [EVE] Fetid Heath
    10 [5E] Island (3)
    4 [R] Tundra
    4 [SHM] Mystic Gate
    4 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
    4 [RAV] Watery Grave
    4 [A] Underground Sea
    4 [A] Scrubland
    4 [GP] Godless Shrine
    4 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain

    // Creatures
    4 [UD] Academy Rector
    4 [ON] Exalted Angel
    4 [FUT] Tombstalker

    // Spells
    4 [AL] Lim-Dul's Vault
    2 [U] Wrath of God
    1 [PLC] Damnation
    3 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    4 [8E] Merchant Scroll
    3 [UD] Replenish
    4 [FNM] Duress
    1 [WL] Argivian Find
    1 [CH] Feldon's Cane

    4 [OD] Diabolic Tutor
    4 [PS] Diabolic Intent
    4 [RAV] Brainspoil
    4 [WL] Abeyance
    4 [PS] Orim's Chant
    4 [MOR] Idyllic Tutor
    4 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
    1 [LG] Moat
    4 [IN] Fact or Fiction
    4 [TO] Cabal Ritual
    4 [5E] Dark Ritual
    4 [DIS] Infernal Tutor
    4 [PY] Rhystic Tutor
    4 [ST] Grim Tutor
    4 [AL] Force of Will
    4 [MM] Brainstorm
    4 [FNM] Impulse
    4 [PT] Personal Tutor
    4 [MI] Mystical Tutor
    4 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
    4 [TE] Intuition
    4 [LRW] Ponder
    4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    4 [OD] Battle of Wits
    4 [AL] Force of Will

    4 [TE] Lotus Petal
    4 [MI] Lion's Eye Diamond
    4 [SH] Mox Diamond
    4 [MR] Chrome Mox

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