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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    The Bolt Land is bad in Legacy/Vintage/Extended. It does however, have an amazing time in EDH and other big-deck formats. Shoe-in for my EDH mono-red deck :D
    I would like to add that it will be also terribly bad in Standard, Block and Limited.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Although that land could be interesting in multiples.

    Play a mountain deal 12 damage.

    Of course the fact that this land is terrible early game and takes forever to get online, oh yeah and wasteland stops it pretty good, it won't ever see legacy play.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    That land in 43 lands might get some giggles. Of course this means that 43 lands needs to have 6+Mountains (do Taigas count for Mountain count like that?).

    Or do RG board control and run lots of mana ramping. It could work, but it'd be a massive pain in the ass to do. It'd be cool as a casual deck.

    The best use for this sucker is going to be in EDH I think.

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    It'd be hard to make this work in Legacy. If you're in monored, you'll need a large number of basic mountains in your deck to make it work. This means that the moment this land hits play, it's going to eat a Wasteland that was waiting for a target. If you're in R/x with duals, you're pretty unlikely to get to seven land between Wastes and Stifles by the time it matters.

    43 land could be modified to use it, but it's probably easier for them to recur Barbarian Rings.

    Aggro Loam could also be modified to use it, but Seismic Assault just seems more impressive for them.

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    Sorin has been fully spoiled, and his second ability is "-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10." This guy is now officially batshit insane in EDH, especially at four starting loyalty. He might even be good enough to see play in Standard MBC or something.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    Sorin has been fully spoiled, and his second ability is "-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10." This guy is now officially batshit insane in EDH, especially at four starting loyalty. He might even be good enough to see play in Standard MBC or something.
    Wow, that's probably better than the Sphynx that people want banned. Mindslaver or 30 point fireball in the same card? Awesome. Blue, black, and white are already the strongest colors in EDH.
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    Sorin has been fully spoiled, and his second ability is "-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10." This guy is now officially batshit insane in EDH, especially at four starting loyalty. He might even be good enough to see play in Standard MBC or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogboy View Post
    no and no.
    I agree he probably won't see much play in standard, but in EDH he can take two opponents down 30 life a piece in three turns if left alone (very doubtful).

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Warren Instigator is becoming more and more interesting - a mystic rare Gobin for with double strike?

    We'll have to wait and see how it turns out, but it could have potential.

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    Maro said Warren Instigator is awesome via Twitter. "...just wait until next week; that's when the jaws should drop."
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    My guess:

    3/2

    or

    R: Warren Instigator gets +1/0
    1/2
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfrago View Post
    My guess:

    3/2

    or

    R: Warren Instigator gets +1/0
    1/2
    A 3/2 with double strike is absurd. I doubt he is that powerful.

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    Hmm, Warren Instigator maybe produces 1/1 tokens whenever he does combat damage?

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by workingdude View Post
    Hmm, Warren Instigator maybe produces 1/1 tokens whenever he does combat damage?
    Evan Erwin thought that he might have a Landfall ability that puts 1/1 Double Strikers into play.

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    My guess
    Warren Instigator RR
    Creature-Goblin Berserker MR
    Double Strike
    Landfall- Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, Goblin creatures you control get +2/+0 until end of turn.
    0/1

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by JeroenC View Post
    My guess
    Warren Instigator RR
    Creature-Goblin Berserker MR
    Double Strike
    Landfall- Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, Goblin creatures you control get +2/+0 until end of turn.
    0/1
    Too busted. Probably more like:

    Warren Instigator RR
    Creature-Goblin Berserker MR
    Double Strike
    Landfall- Sacrifice a land: +1/+1 until end of turn.
    1/2

    My guess is that landfall works differently with every color, like Hideaway or Chroma.
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    Nono, Landfall is going to trigger on lands coming into play. Chroma never worked differently, it always worked around mana symbols. Same about Hideaway, that's just a keyword even. And yes, now that I reread it, quite busted indeed. But his flavor text leads me to think he pumps more than only himself. Perhaps +1/+0 or something.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by workingdude View Post
    Hmm, Warren Instigator maybe produces 1/1 tokens whenever he does combat damage?
    Could be. Fits well with the remaning space on the card and with name and flavor text.
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by JeroenC View Post
    Nono, Landfall is going to trigger on lands coming into play. Chroma never worked differently, it always worked around mana symbols. Same about Hideaway, that's just a keyword even. And yes, now that I reread it, quite busted indeed. But his flavor text leads me to think he pumps more than only himself. Perhaps +1/+0 or something.
    Definately. An instigator is someone who deliberately forments trouble (according http://www.wordreference.com/definition/instigator). My conclusion is that it definately is going to help it's buddies out.
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Taking that into consideration, it could just very well be a 2/2 (or near that) double striker with "All goblins attack each turn if able."
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