I side in relics on the draw if goyf is accompanied by lavamancer, (as he usually is) and often mad aunties through the vial can really skew combat, especially with a chieftain onboard.Originally Posted by Tacosnape
Do you guys follow The Magic Show on Youtube?
Steve is spoiling a card there, and what we know so far is:
RR
Warren Instigator
Goblin Berserker
Mythic Rare
Double Strike
Next week the spoiler will be complete.
I´m quite exited for a good 2drop goblin! =)
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The real question is what's his P/T. I mean, I can't imagine he's a 2/2, as that makes him extremely better than Boros, which is already a good card. So yeah, Gobbos don't have enough stat boosts to take real advantage of this guy. Unless they overpower him in general, he's probably not going to be that good in the deck (until you add jitte...)
EDIT: Once again, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'LL MAKE HIM A 2/2 (or even a 2/1 for that matter). Though the possibility of a landfall ability with him is interesting.
2 for a 2/2 with double strike means he is, in a sense, a 4/2 for 2cmc. With our goblin lords running around, he is going to destroy Goyfs.
He's got to have another ability. 2 power here would be too strong. 1 is too weak to be worth mentioning. He -might- be a 2/1, but I'm guessing there's more to this guy, like being 1/1 with a +1/+1 counter Landfall ability.
I'm crossing my fingers that it's a 2cc double strike 2/2. So buff just by himself.
If this happens I'll just switch to Goyf Sligh or Zoo.
That's a good point.
If it doesn't have any other ability, perhaps it could be a 3/0. That's a bit Johnny-ish to be a Mythic Rare, but it could make sense since Goblin Chieftain is in Standard (and casual players won't rotate out King or Auntie).
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I'm really eager for this card. The fact that he plays a lot better with Chieftain than with Warchief might cause some rotation in the standard Goblin-core. I highly suspect this card to be a four off. Protection from Demons, Dragons and Lhurgoyfs = Baneslayer Goblin anyone?
By the way, who's Steve?
I'm probably the only one here not hoping for a ridiculously powerful Goblin as that will definately put the deck on the radar. That means our bad matchups might see more play making Goblins a worse choice actually.
Anyway, if this does turn out to be great it's going to be hard to keep Rishadan Port around and Goblin Warchief will lose a ton of it's power. So that would probably mean some revision of the manabase and maybe the adoption of Goblin Chieftain instead of Warchief, but I guess only time can tell.
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I´m exited mostly because it is a freakin MYTHIC RARE!
It should be at least very good.
Also, there is enough space not used in the card (you can see on the video), so there must be another cool abilitie!
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It's not just a mythic rare.
It's a mythic rare that's not a planeswalker or some funky legend, it's a 2 mana goblin, which probably means that WotC decided to push it, it became good and got kicked up to mythic.
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Which means that Goblins will be given a boost.
Which means Merfolk will see less play.
Which means Storm will see more play.
(Looks at DTB list).
That would be really neat from a design standpoint. It also wouldn't be nearly good enough to be a mythic rare, as the allure of it being a 2-drop would be gone in most formats. It'd be really neat that way if you led with an Aether Vial turn one, and got turn three Chieftain, Vial in thingymabobber, swang.
Maybe it'll outclass tarmogoyf. =p
But I thought WoTC is going against tribal for a while. It might not just point at Goblins
I'm not a Goblin player, but would a great stand alone goblin be good for this deck? I mean in that case it can be adopted by Goyf-Sligh and Zoo, wich makes those matchups worse. A nice themed Goblin would be great though, but if Pastorofmuppets is right, that would probably not be the case.
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It would be great anyway. Just think about it: if Goyf was a Goblin, wouldn't this deck be much MUCH better? Matron for Goyf, play a 4/5 haste for G.
A good standalone threat gains all the advantages here of being a goblin, making it a lot better in this deck than in any other.
IF this thing is going to get busted, I'd consider cutting ports for basics and maybe running 1/2 Caverns, alongside this guy, Chieftains and Warchiefs. I'd find those slots cutting things like War Marshals, Stingscourgers and maybe 1 SGC
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The berserker part makes me think it'll just be Goblin Striker with double strike instead of first strike.
Though, "instigator" can imply a number of things, such as provoke or forced attacks. (Goblins attack each turn if able? >_>)
We'll see I guess.
Just a quick question. Can I have some of whatever you're smoking? Hehe, there's a reason goyf is type Luhrnevergonnausethiscreaturetypeagaingoyf. He'd just be beyond ridiculous in any tribal deck. Heck, merfolks run him already with splash and he's not a 'folk!
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