[Deck] TES - The EPIC Storm

[lorddotm]

Don't believe so:
Opp: Broken spell
You: Counter
Opp: Counter
You: Counter
Opp: Counter
You: Finally I can play this shit for free!

How often is this going to happen? If there are no cantrips involved it's totally unplayable in normal game circumstances. If there is one cantrip involved it's just quite unlikely (with you having this+another counter, and the opponent playing cantrip+spell+counter).

Fair enough lol. When I first read it I thought it said if three spells were played this turn.

[Piceli89]

Let's first see if this thing is going to get played in non-blue SBs.

It's likely not to get played in blue decks, cause they usually don't need to specifically devote SB spaces at the combo matchup.

It will probably get some hype for some time, like extirpate, and then get out of the SBs.
Interesting card for vintage, though.

I hope so. I think that Legacy is already quite full of answers to Storm Combo, and the ones non -blue decks are playing are way more synergic with their style of playing. I mean, Zoo would difficultly play this as a sb answer to Combo, since Gaddock Teeg still shuts down our bombs but beats for 2 too. The only real application I'd see is this spell being played by something like..Elves, who don't have any answer to us. This would make us keeep Chant in and play , spending 1 mana more when going off, and that's not good.
But i hope clever Elves or GreenStompy players will pack Chalice or Thorn of Ametyst rather than that thing.

Fucking Wizards in any case, before the AdN nerfing and now this shit being printed. Seems they all want us to play Aggro-Control ( not that they care about legacy.. but I think this card will be teh serious sb hate card towards TEPS in Extended).

[GreenOne]

(I think this card will be teh serious sb hate card towards TEPS in Extended).

What? Will storm be present in the next extended season? I thought TEPS was dead without Desire and Tendrils.

[Piceli89]

What? Will storm be present in the next extended season? I thought TEPS was dead without Desire and Tendrils.

I was referring to these days. But in each case, in Ext the possibility of new types of storm combo (if they'll ever be built since the lack of Tendrils) will be smothered by this card. Not that I care really much about Ext, but i have to get out my frustration for this card..
But stil, let's hope it won't touch Legacy. It would be a bad thing to keep after sb cards that you normally side out against certain MUs because of the possibility of this shit coming up and ruining your plans.

[BreathWeapon]

That's a rather aggravating SB card, now we're forced to Duress/Orim's Chant before we go off vs decks that wouldn't otherwise have non-permanent answers to Storm.

It's really narrow, but quite the ball buster.

[lorddotm]

This card is pretty sick against us, but there are a lot of very sick cards against us, so we're going to have to see if this is one of the top ones.

[fearphage]

This is a pretty strong control card if it gets played. And goblins got a nice shot in the arm. Does that mean we should expect a new ritual, protection spell or some other combo piece?

[Piceli89]

This is a pretty strong control card if it gets played. And goblins got a nice shot in the arm. Does that mean we should expect a new ritual, protection spell or some other combo piece?

No, we won't. That card was one of the fews "specifically designed for Eternal formats", as it was said. And its purpose is to balance the impossibility by certain decks to fight a turn 1-2 Storm in their face. And also, i assume, the busted-ness of Ad Nauseam, print recently.
Of course at the modic price of being a mythic rare, i.e. at least 15 dollars - and more if it will be played. Of course always a good economic advantage, for them.
It's incredible how much WoTc seems to hate Storm combo. It seems they're following the thought of the noobs who complain " bahh bahh fucking storm it's unfair " and then go to play CounterTop because they can't do anything but "flip , counter, flip, counter, lawl i own ya n00b!!".
Sad times..

[Bryant Cook]

This is a pretty strong control card if it gets played. And goblins got a nice shot in the arm. Does that mean we should expect a new ritual, protection spell or some other combo piece?

I hope so, I'd like to cut the Mystical/Chain slot for a decent ritual.

BR
Sorcery

Add RRBB

that card would be BALLER.



As for the new counter, I don't think it will see much play. It seems more like an extended answer than a Legacy one.

[JeroenC]

Meh. Odds are we ain't ever getting B rituals anymore. Those are all R now. :(

[tsabo_tavoc]

I hope so, I'd like to cut the Mystical/Chain slot for a decent ritual.

I run more or less the OP list -IGG, -CoV, -2 M.Tutor and -1 Land for +4 SSG and +1 Duress (all golden lands too).

It's a pleasure to notice that your great minds start to converge.

[Bane of the Living]

No, we won't. That card was one of the fews "specifically designed for Eternal formats", as it was said. And its purpose is to balance the impossibility by certain decks to fight a turn 1-2 Storm in their face. And also, i assume, the busted-ness of Ad Nauseam, print recently.
Of course at the modic price of being a mythic rare, i.e. at least 15 dollars - and more if it will be played. Of course always a good economic advantage, for them.
It's incredible how much WoTc seems to hate Storm combo. It seems they're following the thought of the noobs who complain " bahh bahh fucking storm it's unfair " and then go to play CounterTop because they can't do anything but "flip , counter, flip, counter, lawl i own ya n00b!!".
Sad times..

Well since competitive magic normally doesn't have anything to do with legacy it is true that more cards are printed with standard and extended in mind. That said it doesn't mean they don't throw us a bone now and then. Here in Zendikar there seems to be a whole skeleton.

Counterbalance combo got nurfed in extended when they took out Top. I figure they like the combo and still want it played somewhere. It's not good enough for Vintage because of the radical mana costs and presence of Mana Drain. Storm combo was recognized as a flaw much later than it's development. They didn't realize how prevailent it would make combination decks, and how immune to counter strategies it would create them.

It is a fact that wizards fixes those mistakes, whether or not it be far later than we wish. (Kataki WHERE WERE YOU!!??) Mindbreak Trap is literally the card that's been posted on this site as a fake card for years! We've always been waiting for this and now it's happened. Welcome to all decks blue or not.

[fearphage]

Counterbalance combo got nurfed in extended when they took out Top. I figure they like the combo and still want it played somewhere.

Top got banned because of time constraints allegedly not because it was destroying combo players with Counterbalance.

[Ozymandias]

Yeah, TEPS could go off around a CB/Top on the table because it had nonspell accell (Invasion saclands) and expensive accel (channel the suns, Seething song). Same goes for Ideal.

[Bryant Cook]

Glad to see we're still talking about irrelevance.


I've been debating cutting the Mystical/Chain package. However, I want to add something better (mana? land? no idea) to the deck. I know I don't want cabal ritual and Tinder wall, to a lesser extent SSG. I'm really hoping this new set gives us something worth playing.

But doing this would force me to change my sideboard. Since the Mystical targets would have to leave. I think I'd want to either overload on artifact hate or spread it out and include Gaddeck Teeg kill in Deathmarks (1-2).

[lorddotm]

Glad to see we're still talking about irrelevance.


I've been debating cutting the Mystical/Chain package. However, I want to add something better (mana? land? no idea) to the deck. I know I don't want cabal ritual and Tinder wall, to a lesser extent SSG. I'm really hoping this new set gives us something worth playing.

But doing this would force me to change my sideboard. Since the Mystical targets would have to leave. I think I'd want to either overload on artifact hate or spread it out and include Gaddeck Teeg kill in Deathmarks (1-2).

I agree with you, but maybe adding in some Cabal Rituals is right?

[Bryant Cook]

Cabal is always my first card boarded out because it's weak. Where I don't board out Mysticals because they're very versatile and can be very strong. I find cabal is only good when we're already winning via Nauseam.

[Piceli89]

But still, at the moment there's nothing valid that can make the switch with Mysticals, which are a necessity for the flesibility of the deck. Atm they're pretty much uncuttable, because there isn't anything better than them. Pretty obvious statement, but the deck's in a situation of stasis.

[BreathWeapon]

But still, at the moment there's nothing valid that can make the switch with Mysticals, which are a necessity for the flesibility of the deck. Atm they're pretty much uncuttable, because there isn't anything better than them. Pretty obvious statement, but the deck's in a situation of stasis.

I really, really disagree, you're making Mystical Tutor out to be a necessity when their not. If you weren't SBing your Infernal Tutor, running 12 lands, running dual lands etc. you'd see Mystical Tutor is filler at best. Even the "sub-optimal" accelerants are reasonable for a straight up swap.

[GreenOne]

Am I the only one that wants a tutor effect for that slot?
I'm running 4 IT MD, but still seems to me that 10 tutors are optimal for the deck, especially if tutors can find acceleration too. I'd not swap Mysticals for acceleration: I like the post SB tutorable cards, and it's the best 3rd tutor the deck has access too. If they print a better tutor or a broken acceleration (sure better than Tinder Wall) I'm going to play that, but right now I like the 2x Mystical package (and I'm not playing with MD bounce).