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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    More support for the Serpent tribe!!

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Incidentally...
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    Serpent is a synonym for snake.
    so do they have any reason for not letting Blue's big-ass unplayable fatties play nice with Green's poisonous rarely-playable weenies?
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    Flavor. Serpents are completely different monsters than Snakes.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Actually, in spanish both tribes have the creature type "serpiente" (snake) and thus look like as if they could be played together.

    Also, I checked and think that serpent has to be the absolute worst creature type in the game.

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    They're sea serpents people. We're not talking about the thing in the Garden of Eden transplanted underwater. These are incredibly large mythological beasts, plaguing the open seas and capsizing ships. What's the problem?

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    It's dumb, but then I think they should just consolidate all animals into "Beasts", all the ghosts and zombies and skeletons and such into "Undead", and so on. This is a partly flavorful, partly mechanical distinction; how much consolidation do you want in your creature types?
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    The Cobra Trap has now a different trigger condition than first spoiled, and it's interesting...

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    an opponent controlled, you may pay G rather
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    Put four 1/1 green Snake creature tokens onto the battlefield.


    Now would it have been too much to ask to include creature permanents ? As it is, it looks narrow, though I can see the appeal of casting the Trap off your first turn Tropical that your opponent greedily Wasted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    It's dumb, but then I think they should just consolidate all animals into "Beasts", all the ghosts and zombies and skeletons and such into "Undead", and so on. This is a partly flavorful, partly mechanical distinction; how much consolidation do you want in your creature types?
    I like it the way it is...and it's not like it matters if this guys a snake or not...It's not as if you would put him in your Soshiro deck if he were.

    I like the distinctions between different creatures...makes it much more flavorful without any drawbacks. ...Unless you're really dying to play the new octopus with Contested Cliffs.

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    they made falcons into birds. consolodating all of the creature types would help atleast casual players play a lot more unplayed cards. they do have way too many creature types though.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    I wish every creature had it's own creature type. Then they wouldn't be pushing tribal so hard.

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    I wish every creature had it's own creature type. Then they wouldn't be pushing tribal so hard.
    That's how it used to be. I don't know if you remember, but Uncle Istvan tribal was the nuts.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    I remember the days when they thought Phyrexian could not be a creature type because therw would be to many creature types.

    and now we have Kor, dauthi, soltari and even that new type sarrukar as creature types, what gives?

    Phyrexians deserve there own type since they are a completly different race.

    And why doe serpents always ahve to suck?, they make cheap dragons or playable ones but can't seem to conjur up a halve decent Serpent...
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    So my initial thought was that I would buy a box or five, but after taking a look at the full spoiler... I dunno. Lots of crap rares for what WotC is trying to bill as "zomg, teh best stand-alone set evar".

    Anyone have a similar reaction? I'm just not so sure I wouldn't be better off just buying a shit-ton of fetch-lands and calling it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeDemonKn1ght View Post
    So my initial thought was that I would buy a box or five, but after taking a look at the full spoiler... I dunno. Lots of crap rares for what WotC is trying to bill as "zomg, teh best stand-alone set evar".

    Anyone have a similar reaction? I'm just not so sure I wouldn't be better off just buying a shit-ton of fetch-lands and calling it a day.
    1) Buy boxes.
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    4) Profit!

    You can also set aside a box for drafting, which is what I'm going to do. I provide the packs, everyone plays with sleeves, I get the cards back at the end (or at least, the interesting stuff).

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    It's dumb, but then I think they should just consolidate all animals into "Beasts", all the ghosts and zombies and skeletons and such into "Undead", and so on. This is a partly flavorful, partly mechanical distinction; how much consolidation do you want in your creature types?
    I agree to some degree, but maybe add additional creature types to the cards like how every human is now a "human" in addition to its other type.

    Quote Originally Posted by quicksilver View Post
    I wish every creature had it's own creature type. Then they wouldn't be pushing tribal so hard.
    Yeah, they changed Nekrataal to Human Assassin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volrath View Post
    And why doe serpents always ahve to suck?, they make cheap dragons or playable ones but can't seem to conjur up a halve decent Serpent...
    Because cheap, big, fat blue critters plus countermagic is better than cheap red fat and burn.

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeDemonKn1ght View Post
    So my initial thought was that I would buy a box or five, but after taking a look at the full spoiler... I dunno. Lots of crap rares for what WotC is trying to bill as "zomg, teh best stand-alone set evar".

    Anyone have a similar reaction? I'm just not so sure I wouldn't be better off just buying a shit-ton of fetch-lands and calling it a day.
    Unless you are a Standard player or collector, busting boxes sucks. Selling shit rares? I have a stack of Invasion shit rares that is waiting to be purchased... any takers? Seriously, good rares you want to keep and only unplayable jank that no one wants is what you're left with and no one wants that.
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    Unless you are a Standard player or collector, busting boxes sucks. Selling shit rares? I have a stack of Invasion shit rares that is waiting to be purchased... any takers? Seriously, good rares you want to keep and only unplayable jank that no one wants is what you're left with and no one wants that.
    Some dealers and places like Starcity will buy them for some small amount, usually $0.10 or less. If you have a lot of them, it can be a great way to unload them for profit. I know a guy who traded with a dealer in Berkeley and ended up getting a NM Imperial Seal in English for literally thousands of crap rares.

    Hooking that up in China might be a tad difficult, though.

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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by DrJones View Post
    Actually, in spanish both tribes have the creature type "serpiente" (snake) and thus look like as if they could be played together.
    I've just checked it and the subtype "serpent" is translated as "serpiente", which may be a correct translation, but in modern spanish the word "serpiente" refers to what you call "snake" (that animal you can find in a forest and you should stay away from) while "serpent" refers to a huge mythic creature who eats galleons for breakfast. Anyway, I'm sorry to say that those new "snakes" have received the creature subtype of "víbora", which is a same, because a deck based on linguistic shenanigans would be awesome (I don't know if this should be ironic...)
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    Re: [ZEN] Rumor Mill

    Yeah 10c is about what I give for large bulk rares. There's not too many people who do more than that really. I have met one guy, but I think I scared him into oblivion when I brought over several thousand once to cash in.

    I'm always up for buying rares though. You'd be amazed at what some people call crap. I have a bunch of Grindstones I got for that 10c and wasn't sad to see pop up in price later. You get lucky sometimes.

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