I was just going to post the exact same thing. There's mad speculation going in MTGS about the matter. If true it will be insane lol. First there was a thread where someone claimed to have opened wb ancestral recall but that was shut down by staff as non-sense, then bit later this candelabra claim appeared.
Could this actually be the "good thing for legacy" which was hinted while back by Forsythe?
Looks like a marketing gagOriginally Posted by hi-val
There is no proof that the Candelabra is actually out this pack, the photo is blurry (on purpose) and the entire "ZOMG, SIGN UP FOR PRERELEASE!" is very, very fishy.
I don't believe it until Prereleases prove otherwise.
OMG there could be Recalls in Zendikar boosters!
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It could be a hoax, but small things like the announcement of what to do with wrong cards in packs and the elimination of deck swaps as well as the "treasure feeling" kinda help to believe it. I really really really hope it's true but I will have fun with my box even if it isn't - I know from Time Spiral that I'm able to open only Squires anyways
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The thing is, this isn't like "someinternetmeme1235" with one post spamming random crap on MTGS. This is an actual store owner posting about this on his website -- he is risking his reputation to do it. Making a random account to troll people on the rumor mill is different from staking your small business's name to do it. Either this is true or the store owner is the biggest idiot known to man and is probably going to lose his store.
These recent changes must have something to do with this rumour. There's also a guy on MTGSAL that opened a UNL Lich... I'm starting to believe this, which could be an awesome marketing strategy made by Wizard. And if we think about it, what would be the drawback for them to do so? They have pretty much nothing to lose, even a lot of sells to win, I say.Of interest to all WPN Organizers and DCI tournament players are the following changes to the Magic Tournament Rules. The following changes to Limited Events go in to effect immediately:
Section 7.3 — Card Use in Limited Tournaments
Other than basic land, only cards from the expansions of the boosters opened (and only cards opened in that player's pool) may be used in a player's deck. For example, in a Magic 2010 Sealed Deck tournament, any card in a booster other then the Magic 2010 game cards received by the player and basic land may not be used in a player's deck during that tournament.
Section 7.5 — Sealed Deck Swap
In Sealed Deck tournaments, the Head Judge may require players to perform a deck swap prior to deck construction. Players receive unopened product and register the contents (except basic land cards) on deck lists. Any card in a booster that is not a card from the expansion of the opened booster is retained by the player that registers the cards (example: a player that registers the contents of a booster during a deck swap keeps the token card, if any). Players who drop from the tournament before fulfilling this duty will receive a match loss in the first round. Tournament Officials then collect the recorded card pools and re-distribute them randomly. A player may randomly receive the product he or she registered. The Head Judge should require players to sort the cards they register according to some criteria (e.g. color and then alphabetically) to assist the player receiving the pool.
I know that in the 6 case I have to open I better get something good LOL. If this is real i would most likely need to change pants after opening a pack with something old and valuable in it.
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I know wizards has these old cards, remember when there was that cube draft a year ago with like smenenienenean and other people where wizards broke out moxes, recalls, etc.
I don't know why they would need to put them in Zendikar, Flavor be damned. The set has fetches to begin with.
Wizards borrowed all that from SCG, actually.
The thing that's CRAZY is that there's no point to hoaxing this - admitting that your store sold/cracked packs before the prerelease puts you on the WOTC blacklist. If they wanted attention, they got it, but it might be the last Magic product they ever get...
Even if the rumours are true and even if there's a "chance" of something crazy like a p9, who would have the balls to think they'd open it? Maybe I'm too cynical or something, but it would be in such limited quantities that you'd probably be better off playing the lottery.If you'd buy Zen for the chance of randomly inserted old cards, I think I have a shitload of ebay repacks to sell you with "a chance of a p9".
Edit: Just an afterthought... it would be like buying a Zen pack with the hope/intent of pulling a foil fetch. Yeah, there is a chance, but buying a pack for the purposes of/because they exist is a bit naive/hopeful. As I said, I'm cynical. I've never ever pulled anything amazing, ever.
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This is true, but the possibility of p9 is different in two fundamental ways.
Firstly, while the foil fetch might be worth more than a regular fetch, functionally they operate the same. No added value to the shiny fetch. There is additional play value to opening an ancestral recall over a basic land.
Secondly, the pay out is a lot higher. Right now on Ebay there's a guy selling a mint recall for 2.2 thousand dollars. My favorite online store, black and blue, has a VF one for 750. A foil fetch my get you sixty or eighty bucks (max), but that's an order of magnitude smaller than the price you'd get for the recall.
Thirdly, people, as a group, are dumb. They play the lottery and ask people much more attractive than themselves to dance. I've seen it happen.
one minute ago, our shop owner confirmed this information.
OMG
I don't think its against any standards for a retailer to open packs before the set is released. As long as they don't sell it, it gives the store a chance to get a stock of single for when the set is released. I could be wrong, but I think it'd be asinine for Wizards to blacklist a store for wanting to have singles on hand.
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whoa whoa whoa...there's a new magic expansion? Jesus, its like they turn these things out like four times a year...
Skizzik No Kicker. Like a true retard.
as a quick FYI gents the address on that website... is fake... I just googled the address and sure enough it isn't a card shop... for easy refrence:
http://www.google.com/search?q=224+f...ient=firefox-a
and for even easier...
http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...r.440-239-1750
Call me a sucker but DAMN! I am falling in love with this set. I think I am now hooked on standard.
Meh. I almost gave in to the hype, then I read the spoiler again, a little more closely. There are way to many heavily conditional traps, expeditions, and Allies printed at rare, for me to be satisfied if I were to get a box. Oh, and vampires. I dislike forced linear strategies. Sure there are randomly cool rares like Conquerer's Pledge or Oracle of Mul Daya, but for every such card there is a Bala Ged Thief. Fail. Compare to M10, where virtually every rare is at least decent or has some use.
A lot of the potentially interesting cards for Legacy are common/uncommon: Pitfall trap, Spell Pierce, Ravenous Trap, Vampire Hexmage... uh, work with me here, I'm not seeing many others.
Nor am I convinced that Lotus Cobra is broken in Legacy. I'll believe it when I see it.
Not hatin', just the harsh light of reality setting in.
Nobody ever claimed Lotus Cobra is broken in Legacy. In fact, most people think the opposite. Look at the all the Lotus Cobra threads popping up: none, really.
Heh, very true. The proof is in the pudding I guess. Everbody's spooging about it in other formats, but of course, legacy is not other formats. Even the vintage people think it might be interesting:
http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=38857.0
Of course, they have gush+fastbond to abuse it with.
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